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Rocket landing at Cape Canaveral planned after SpaceX launch (liftoff TODAY 5:29pm PST/8:29pm EST)
SpaceFlightNow.com ^ | 19DEC2015 | Stephen Clark

Posted on 12/20/2015 12:13:01 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine

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1 posted on 12/20/2015 12:13:01 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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Photos: Taller, souped-up Falcon 9 on the launch pad
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/12/20/photos-taller-souped-up-falcon-9-on-the-launch-pad/

SpaceX scheduled to return Falcon 9 rocket to flight Sunday
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/12/19/spacex-plans-to-return-falcon-9-rocket-to-flight-sunday/

Live coverage: Upgraded Falcon 9 rocket set for debut launch
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/12/20/falcon-9-orbcomm-2-mission-status-center/


2 posted on 12/20/2015 12:17:30 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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You can also watch the live launch coverage here.
http://original.livestream.com/spaceflightnow


3 posted on 12/20/2015 12:18:14 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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They really need to focus on the ascent after the last one.


4 posted on 12/20/2015 12:25:24 PM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Proves we don’t have technology to go to the moon. Still don’t.


5 posted on 12/20/2015 1:00:33 PM PST by Rapunzel (Fallujah be damned ...S. Helvenston RIP)
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I may be the only person who doesn’t, but I do not see the benefit of landing the return craft like this.

My concern is that this is a highly problematic maneuver, and would add an additional element that has to go just right or there is total disaster.

Are there going to be people returning via this vehicle, or is it just a cargo specific entity?


6 posted on 12/20/2015 1:02:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne ((It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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Last time they tried this was out in the ocean and it failed. It fell into the ocean. So this time they are trying on land and Cape Canaveral has so much confidence in this landing that they are evacuating. Says so in the article. It’s just too dangerous. Going to ruin Florida .


7 posted on 12/20/2015 1:06:41 PM PST by Rapunzel (Fallujah be damned ...S. Helvenston RIP)
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To: DoughtyOne

The first stage is not a person or cargo carrying vehicle. It’s just the booster rocket. The advantage to reusing it is that it saves on costs by refurbishing it rather than having to throw one away every time they launch. It cost much less to refurbish, or it should, then it does to just build and launch.


8 posted on 12/20/2015 1:07:55 PM PST by hoagy62 (Timid Men prefer the 'Calm of Despotism' to the 'Tempestuous Sea of Liberty'. ~ T. Jefferson)
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To: Rapunzel

Yikes...

I knew the former ones had failed on that platform.

The first one of these that comes down slamming into something it shouldn’t have, they’ll pay out ten times the lost stage rocket.


9 posted on 12/20/2015 1:10:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne ((It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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To: hoagy62

Thanks for that important clarification.

That makes sense.

Since that thing doesn’t go orbital, wouldn’t it be easier to simply put wings on it and fly it back to the launch site?

Does that stage still go too high to do that.


10 posted on 12/20/2015 1:12:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne ((It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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When they launch something like in Atlas or Delta, and it explodes on take off, it’s a much bigger bang than what they would get if the Space X first stage comes down off center and explodes. There’s not as much fuel in it. They can get the direction and the pin point of where they’re supposed to land correctly. Both times they tried to land it on the barge, it landed ON the barge, but off-center. If they can solve that, it should work. However, things can go wrong... as they found out.


11 posted on 12/20/2015 1:13:19 PM PST by hoagy62 (Timid Men prefer the 'Calm of Despotism' to the 'Tempestuous Sea of Liberty'. ~ T. Jefferson)
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That wasn’t the way they designed it. I do know that the Blue Origin rocket does have wings on it that help guide it back to where it’s supposed to land. I think maybe that might help SpaceX, but its all up to their engineers.


12 posted on 12/20/2015 1:14:43 PM PST by hoagy62 (Timid Men prefer the 'Calm of Despotism' to the 'Tempestuous Sea of Liberty'. ~ T. Jefferson)
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To: hoagy62

I agree. Thanks for your responses.


13 posted on 12/20/2015 1:19:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne ((It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.))
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I have a front seat to watch from my front yard.


14 posted on 12/20/2015 1:20:46 PM PST by Rapunzel (Fallujah be damned ...S. Helvenston RIP)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks for posting this, wanted to watch.


15 posted on 12/20/2015 1:20:52 PM PST by Monty22002
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That wasn’t the way they designed it. I do know that the Blue Origin rocket does have wings on it that help guide it back to where it’s supposed to land. I think maybe that might help SpaceX, but its all up to their engineers.

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Blue Origin uses some type of fins. I wouldn’t call them wings. SpaceX uses aerodynamic grids, cold gas thrusters, and a steerable rocket motor.


16 posted on 12/20/2015 1:29:59 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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I have a front seat to watch from my front yard.

Nice...we gave up our front yard seating 10 years ago in our relocation to GreenAcres. We are coming to the weeks (mid-December to mid-March) that I would prefer to be back in M/I!

17 posted on 12/20/2015 1:37:30 PM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: DoughtyOne
You can get a good idea of the technology by watching Blue Origin's recent launch.

The biggest difference is the payload capsule on top. The one that parachutes down. The Blue Origin capsule is designed to carry tourists to near space, and the spacex payload is satellites which continue into orbit. But the first stages of both are very similar in design.

18 posted on 12/20/2015 2:04:57 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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Here is Elon Musk talking about why reusability is important.

Reusability

19 posted on 12/20/2015 2:15:17 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Postponed 24 hours to wait for better weather.


20 posted on 12/20/2015 2:22:55 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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