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Why Ted Cruz ‘proposed’ the legalization of illegals during the Gang of 8 bill
The Right Scoop ^ | 12/16/15 | The Right Scoop

Posted on 12/16/2015 8:58:55 AM PST by thetallguy24

This isn’t the first time we’ve reported this. But considering all the misinformation and nonsense being pushed by a lot of Rubio supporters who refuse to be intellectually honest about this, I decided to republish this.

This video is at the heart of the misinformation:

Amanda Carpenter, who used to work for Ted Cruz in the Senate, explains why Ted Cruz ‘proposed’ the legalization of illegals during the Gang of 8 bill, as you see in the video.

In short, it wasn’t that Cruz wanted to legalize illegals, but rather Cruz was brilliantly exposing how the Gang of 8 bill was all about a path to citizenship and not fixing the immigration system and border enforcement as the Gang of 8 would have had you believe.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; border; immigration; president
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"I have never supported legalization and I do not intend to support legalization," said Cruz.

Isn't that lawyer-speak for maybe?

1 posted on 12/16/2015 8:58:56 AM PST by thetallguy24
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To: thetallguy24

He doesn’t support it, he just proposed it, because he doesn’t want it. You betcha.


2 posted on 12/16/2015 9:00:49 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

you opened the article?


3 posted on 12/16/2015 9:02:33 AM PST by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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To: thetallguy24

No.


4 posted on 12/16/2015 9:02:52 AM PST by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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To: thetallguy24

I don’t support legalization and don’t intend to support legalization.

Where’s the legal speak in my statement?


5 posted on 12/16/2015 9:03:06 AM PST by cowboyway (Returning the federal government to its constitutional limits is a Lost Cause.)
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To: thetallguy24

This is the only thing I don’t like about Cruz.


6 posted on 12/16/2015 9:07:00 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Wolfie

This is a tactic used by both Cruz and Sessions in the Gang of 8 Bill. You can’t seriously think Sessions wants legalization? It is a “poison pill” parliamentary procedure used to kill bad bills.


7 posted on 12/16/2015 9:07:02 AM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: thetallguy24

Poison Pill amendment strategy! To all have ears to hear hear!


8 posted on 12/16/2015 9:07:42 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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Did you actually click the link, view the video and read Amanda Carpenter's Tweets?

Here's the money quote: "So Cruz said ok, here are some amendments that do everything EXCEPT path to citizenship. And the Gang killed them exposing the big hoax."

9 posted on 12/16/2015 9:07:47 AM PST by reegs
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Where’s the legal speak in my statement?

It's only "legal speak" if you are a Trump fan-boy looking for something, anything to bash his competitor, Cruz, over the head with.
10 posted on 12/16/2015 9:08:13 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: cowboyway

Replace “intend” with “won’t” and you’ve said something I can support.


11 posted on 12/16/2015 9:10:39 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: SoConPubbie

These Trumpsters are starting to remind me of the Paulbots.


12 posted on 12/16/2015 9:10:59 AM PST by cowboyway (Returning the federal government to its constitutional limits is a Lost Cause.)
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To: thetallguy24

Not enough tinfoil in Wal-Mart for me to believe this twisted, tortured, convolutedly-implausible explanation.


13 posted on 12/16/2015 9:12:05 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: reegs

If this were true, he’d simply have added an amendment to deny citizenship.


14 posted on 12/16/2015 9:15:28 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: thetallguy24

This is total bull stuff and the Cruz folks know it.

Ted Cruz supported illegal aliens staying inside our nation as part of his idea on how to fix the illegal alien problem.

It wasn’t just in this hearing. He supported it with statements before and after those hearings.

As late as circa July 2015, Ted was interviewed and asked something to the effect of, what about the good ones, can any of them stay. Ted stated, we can find a way.

This presentation on this tread is not true.

That’s something that really troubles me about Ted.

He knew what the laws of our nation were. He was supposed to have one of the best Constitutional minds around.

None the less, when it came to illegal aliens, Ted didn’t think it necessary to enforce the laws of our nation until now when he wants to be president.

I’ve had it with the Cruz team around here.

This guy is a lying two faced ass.

I’m going to do a workup on this and post it on the forum.

Then you folks can deal with what Ted really is.


15 posted on 12/16/2015 9:16:20 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Man the sour grapes are strong with the Crewz...)
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Better still, he could have added an amendment that mandated a wall first, and THEN denied citizenship.


16 posted on 12/16/2015 9:19:45 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

That’s precisely what his amendments did.

Again, the question: do you believe Jeff Sessions is for amnesty through legalization? The talk on FR for months has been how Seasions and Trump put their heads together to formulate the best immigration policy. How then is it so unbelievable that Sessions and Cruz worked so well on these Gang of 8 amendments?


17 posted on 12/16/2015 9:20:12 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: DoughtyOne

So, the sour grapes are only with the Cruz crowd, FRiend? Your tagline is illustrative.


18 posted on 12/16/2015 9:20:47 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: conservativejoy
This is a tactic used by both Cruz and Sessions in the Gang of 8 Bill. You can't seriously think Sessions wants legalization? It is a "poison pill" parliamentary procedure used to kill bad bills.

Nobody was tougher on border control than Duncan Hunter Sr and he was a pro at the poison pill strategy. When the open border crowd tried to sneak things past us by the teaspoon, Hunter would drop a 55 gallon drum of the same into a bill and the open border boys would scatter to get away from it.

It ain't pretty but it is how the sausage is made.
19 posted on 12/16/2015 9:21:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Bring it. We’re quite fed up with you as well.


20 posted on 12/16/2015 9:21:10 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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