Posted on 12/08/2015 2:40:10 PM PST by Isara
Im not certain that the bill has made it to the floor...quite yet.
Who has been in government since last year, who has been privy to information the public does not have, and who has had the ability to propose legislation?
It stinks that Cruz comes up with something like this and it has no hair, for no apparent reason. After all, we keep hearing that he is the smartest boy in the room.
Is this an example of donor pressure? Nothing about it makes sense, unless you consider the donors and their global interests. I just can’t imagine Cruz wants to be seen as third rate on bright ideas.
What’s he going to do, go after the Muslim vote? I’m baffled, Amntn.
You said, "most everyone on FR could have told him in 2014 that it was not a good idea to take them in."
So I asked you the question..."Why did Trump on Sep. 9th, 2015 say that we have to take in Syrian refugees?"
Answer the question and I'll gladly move on to your point.
Sorry but I very clearly answered your question.
Who has had the capability to do something but has not done it until recently?
Document Cruz's big donors and their "global interests".
Hint: There are four big donors and none of them have global interests.
I’m baffled too.
I’m also wondering where he is, being a constitutional scholar and all, with all of these idiots saying Trump’s idea is unconstitutional?
So then why did Trump on Sep. 9th, 2015 say that we have to take in Syrian refugees?
Sorry but I very clearly answered your question.
Sorry, no you didn't. The question stands unanswered.
You would be better off letting people blame it on donors because if that is not the reason for this weak response; the only reason left is with Cruz himself.
You know as well as I do what Trump said in the beginning and what he has said recently.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that Trump is the only one with backbone enough to stand up for us.
The question of this thread is where is Cruz backbone?
No not at all. The donor meme is nonsense.
And Cruz's response isn't weak. He is trying to pass legislation. There is currently no support in congress to ban all Muslim entries. So he is starting out trying to ban all Muslim entries from ISIS and Al Qaeda countries.
Or they could just say they are not Muslims. Idiots can be fooled in a multitude of directions.
Yes, Trump said in Sep. to bring the Syrian refugees in and Trump says today to ban all Muslim entries.
And you know as well as I do that you said everybody knew back in 2014 that the Syrian refugees would be dangerous, yet Trump in Sep. 2015 said bring them in.
From the interweb - in Sept. 2014:
Cruz is particularly incensed by the Obama administration’s failure to recognize the threat of an ISIS attack across the Rio Grande. “First and foremost,†he wrote on CNN’s website, “Washington should resolve to make border security a top priority finally, rather than an afterthought, of this plan in light of concerns about potential ISIS activities on our southern border.â€
That’s right. America’s “foremost†priority when it comes to ISIS should be neither Iraq nor Syria but Mexico.
Who are they? I read where Heidi was collecting the fundraisers from Wall Street. Is that not correct?
Wall Street isn’t known for donors that don’t want favors toward their own interests these days, from their candidate.
Do you know who the four are?
Thanks, Rita
<< “ ... the Syrian refugees would be dangerous, yet Trump in Sep. 2015 said bring them in. >>
Trump came in to the race with his sea legs, I think in July, right? Within days he spoke of the Middle East travesty of Christians.
So, remember how he was deeply disturbed about the Christian refugees, how little anyone cares about getting them to safety and out of Iraq crucifixtions, etc.?
I recall he said we had to take the some Syrians in as refugees. I thought it was pretty clear that it was the Chaldeans. The Christian Syrians.
I know for darn sure he was never talking about a whole sale immigration of 96% young, strong and able bodied men, headed for the US, with only 4% Christians.
RitaOK, I was thinking about your earlier question about Cruz and I had a bit of an epiphany. At least it was to me.
I pinged everyone because I would like to get your thoughts and didn’t want to start a vanity.
Anyway, I was thinking about the differences between Cruz and Trump and I think I have come up with why Trump is more appealing to some of us than Cruz is.
Trump LOVES America while Cruz loves the idea or ideal of America.
Cruz loves the constitution, the story of the founding of America, it’s history and what it stands for. He loves the ideal of freedom and the republic.
On the other-hand, Trump LOVES America and it’s people. He loves what America has given him and what it promises for all of us. He loves the military and police forces as her protectors, he loves the cities and what we have all built together throughout our history, and he sees her as Reagan’s shining city on a hill.
Cruz almost feels like an outsider that appreciates what America is but it isn’t really apart of it.
While Trump is very much apart of our country and expects us all to take ownership and responsibility for her.
I guess it would boil down to Cruz intellectualizes the American experience while Trump lives it.
Does this make any sense to any of you? I would love to know your thoughts.
Yes, you’re spot on and I believe your very insightful!
It makes perfect sense to me, too. I see Trump as a kid from Jersey with the instincts of a street fighter, mixing it up with all races and nationalities, exposed very young to labor and the working around blue collars and in church on Sunday, for mom.
To me you’re saying Trump is as smart as anybody, but he has a way of hiding it in the way he talks on the stump, but he has actually broken a sweat, was a fine athlete, very competitive, extremely instinctive.
All my life I was taught to appreciate instinct. He’s got it and I like it. A lot! I also believe that is what THE ART OF THE DEAL is, actually.
Cruz probably is a striver. Seems he didn’t all the time have a happy home growing up, and then lost a sister. Somewhere in there he became a devout Baptist.
I don’t know much or imagine much about Cruz, except for his knowing how to throw red meat to the base in his actions in the senate, to prepare the folks, in a positive fashion, for his presidential run.
He sure knew how to lay the ground work for attracting the base, but then along came TPA, to bring TPP, and then the HB1-Visas for the establishment types, and the blasted quadrupling of foreign Visas for high skilled foreigners, all which has caused him to go back into the weeds to un-do.
I think you nailed it all.
They are both calculating but for different reasons.
Maybe Cruz has a bit of a messianic complex while Trump’s calculating nature is born from being highly competitive.
Cruz wants to save his ideal America while Trump sees problems he wants solved.
Like Trump has said. He waited on someone else to step up and do it but no one did so he decided he had to.
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