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California Attack Has U.S. Rethinking Strategy on Homegrown Terror
NYTimes ^ | 12/5/2015 | Peter Baker & Eric Schmitt

Posted on 12/06/2015 12:51:14 PM PST by John S Mosby

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To: Steely Tom

“IOW, we’re ignoring 2,977 known casualties of 9-11?”

Exactly. “We’re picking this particular starting point on which to base our narrative, because starting a day earlier clearly renders our narrative absurd. Please go along with it.”


21 posted on 12/06/2015 1:16:27 PM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: John S Mosby

I really think that if liberals were able to disarm people, they would begin killing people with the police state machinery offered by the Patriot Act by naming their enemy groups, terrorists.

Their social doctrines are based on hatred of Jews, politically incorrect Christians and whites (white men, in particular). They would find any excuse they could to harm the people they despise. Hatred and coveting is at the heart of liberalism/socialism/Marxism. This is a uniparty, globalist power structure. It’s damn sick. On a global level, they hate all Americans.


22 posted on 12/06/2015 1:28:20 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: John S Mosby
You forgot to mention the most important of all, the NAZIS.

A Fascist system needs to have something, an issue, to keep the public mind off of what their own government is doing to them.

The Jews were a ready made target. They were supposed to be responsible for everything that was wrong.

In that way the economy could be stimulated with war and weapon production. The employment opportunity that the war spending created would keep the NAZI oligarchy popular while the downside loss would be rationalized away.

Though the scapegoat group may change, governments still use similar tactics today. But if CHINA EVER STARTS HAVING A DEPRESSION STYLE UNEMPLOYMENT PROBLEM, "WATCH OUT!"

23 posted on 12/06/2015 1:29:30 PM PST by Bogie
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To: John S Mosby
"The death toll from jihadist terrorism on American soil since the Sept. 11 attacks 45 people is about the same as the 48 killed in terrorist attacks motivated by white supremacist and other right-wing extremist ideologies.

So you take your stats the day after about 3000 people were killed by muslims and then compare killings committed by a group of crazies pooled from 63% of the population to a group pooled from .8%? Statistics are a wonderful thing.

24 posted on 12/06/2015 1:34:36 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Califreak
"Homegrown or government imported?"

Both - under the Traitorobama regime, helped by VOLAGS like Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services (LIaRS).

25 posted on 12/06/2015 1:45:26 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Bogie

I had the national socialist german worker’s party in mind, of course... and it’s position as LEFT of the center in German politics (out of work laborite party), points blame a the “banksters” the Jews (forgetting that the bankers in Germany were certainly NOT all Jews but owned by the Krupps and Theissens of the world and of course Quandts).

And the communists who joined the nazis in the ranks of the thug Sturm Abteilung Brownshirts leadership— who were then wiped out by Hitler. This is ALL disturbing when one realizes that the Clintoonians are ALL German socialist/marxists in the mold of Angela Merkel (she being originally an East German marxist) It all fits, including the love of the islamofascists. It does require subtlety of thought, and thanks for mentioning war machine— which dear Dwight Eisenhower warned us about... now to maybe include the Medical industrial complex... to control the people on all levels. Pure socialism.


26 posted on 12/06/2015 1:47:13 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
Boy am I glad you mentioned Eisenhower. It tells me you are genuine.

God Bless

27 posted on 12/06/2015 1:54:19 PM PST by Bogie
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To: John S Mosby

Sorry, if you’re not at least a 3rd generation American, you’re not homegrown. Those still clinging to foreign cultures and no assimilating as an American aren’t homegrown anything. That said, terrorism is terrorism no matter your background.


28 posted on 12/06/2015 2:28:27 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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The death toll from jihadist terrorism on American soil since the Sept. 11 attacks — 45 people — is about the same as the 48 killed in terrorist attacks motivated by white supremacist and other right-wing extremist ideologies, according to New America, a research organization in Washington.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?"

29 posted on 12/06/2015 3:39:05 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: John S Mosby

This only proves that white Christians (60 to 80% of the population)have a much much lower incidence of becoming extremists than Muslims.(5%).


30 posted on 12/06/2015 3:45:56 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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“about the same as the 48 killed in terrorist attacks motivated by white supremacist and other right-wing extremist ideologies, according to New America”

And the number killed by illegal aliens, registered Dimocrats, and assorted left-wing nutcases?


31 posted on 12/06/2015 5:25:26 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: John S Mosby
I wonder where the figure of 48 comes from. I'm not going to take their word for its accuracy.

The number of people killed by Muslim extremists since 9/11 would be a lot more if several plots had not been thwarted, saving hundreds of lives.

The Egyptian copilot that caused the Boeing 767 to crash in 1999 killed 217 people, but that was before 9/11 so it is excluded from the statistics.

32 posted on 12/06/2015 8:54:15 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SharpRightTurn

Just imagine how many EXISTING illegal aliens who are non-citizens (or fake citizens) are in possession of firearms of all kinds... including TRUE assault weapons (select fire, 3 round or 2 round burst, single shot and full automatic machinegun.....all autoloaded)— are actually in country!

And... how many are illegal Middle Eastern “sleeper” cells.

The FBI says... just regarding ISIS alone-— 1,000 cases (no indication of the number of people in each case as potential armed insurgents within the US).

As well as saying- open the borders to Aztlan and other nut case organizers for “hispano” illegals,THIS SAME prez says he wants to IMPORT more “widows and orphans” (which they are NOT— they are majority military age males) from the Syrian war zone (and a whole lot of other locations as a result) into this country. Ready to be armed when they arrive.


33 posted on 12/07/2015 10:26:13 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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