This is in the Muslim reference library. 
Posted on 12/05/2015 11:36:10 AM PST by amorphous
One more thing. Why should anybody believe anything they say anyway? When one of the core tenets of the religious aspect to their totalitarian system is lying, they forfeit the right to be believed.
There is no plan. There is a culture that works without direction. It’s like an engineered virus. It needs no mind to function, it just is. There is no headquarters and no leader.
It’s like fighting a natural force.
Any gains Islam has had in the last thousand years (or more like 1200 years) is in the nature of an opportunistic infection that spreads into a weakened organism.
To stop it, just stop being weak.
They are useless at actual state-to-state conflict or economy-to-economy competition.
The simple answer is that you shouldn’t believe them.
Even if the ones you are listening to are personally sincere, they can’t really speak for anyone else. Islam isn’t like that.
All I need to know is that it was founded by Hamas and the money it raised on its website after 9/11 went to the Holy Land Foundation.
I’m perfectly happy to coexist with Muslims — as soon as they coexist with us.
This is in the Muslim reference library.
Their leader is "Allah", their plan is the "Quran", and deception is their tool.
Islamic "headquarters" are worldwide. The Muslim Brotherhood is the mothership. This isn't about race, or the defects found in a certain group, as you seem to be implying. The Cult called Islam as established by Mohammed, and likely fathered by Satan himself 1400 years ago, is bent on world domination by any evil means necessary.
A good example of Islam's success, outside the peoples your were around, is Indonesia. What once was primarily a Christian nation has now grown to become the largest population center of the followers of Mohammed on the planet. And also where our enlightened president grew up.
Unfortunately Indonesia's Judea-Christain based constitution probably helped Islam to become the dominate religion there, as it hopes to do in the USA it seems. Islam needs to be treated by the entire world like Nazism, which is a far gentler "ism" than Islam ever was or ever will be if allow to continue - which it won't be, but not by human hands.
Thank you, Washington Times.
It’s not a plan, its more like DNA.
It’s programmed stimulus-response.
As for Indonesia, it was NOT Christian. For certain not. Christianity there was a late comer. All the native cultures there were Hindu-Buddhist-Animist/pagan and then they were nearly all swamped by a tide of Islam. Bits and pieces of the leftover pagans were converted by the Portuguese and Dutch, but they were always a small minority. Ambon, Maluku, Celebes and a few other places. Not Java, Sumatra and etc. that had the population and power.
Here is a very good study on the history of Islam:
Islam has encoded in its teachings- murder, lying, plunder, slavery, rape, warfare, and even terrorism as part of its official religious doctrine. Jesus said that the thief comes only to steal, kill, and destroy, and this is exactly what Islam has done from its beginning. No other religion so completely fits the description in the Bible of the beast and false prophet than Islam.
Islam is different from all the other religions that do not believe in Jesus, because Islam officially declares that Jesus is not the Son of God (Quran 4: 171; 18: 4-5), which is the Biblical definition of Antichrist: "Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the Antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son" (1 John 2: 22).
The spread of Islam has left a trail of blood, suffering, and destruction like no other ideology in world history. History, and even this present age, shows us that Islam is a very violent and fascist religion, full of hate for Christians and Jews. No one could invent a more evil cult.
And for Christianity in Indonesia, Nestorian Christians probably established a church in Sumatra in the seventh century A.D. (Some historians say even sooner), this before Mohammed's "Quran" (or maybe it was DNA) had made it outside the M.E.
A History of Christianity in Indonesia
The victors (Indonesia is about 90% Muslim) now get to write/rewrite history is seems - especially as it exists on Wikipedia.
Nearly? Indonesia is 90% Muslim now. Anyway, I guess "swamped by a tide of Islam" is something we can both agree on.
“I’m perfectly happy to coexist with Muslims — as soon as they coexist with us.”
When might your last part happen in our world?
Everything I need to now about CAIR, I learned on 9/11.
A waste of good bacon.:)
Excellent tagline!
There is no Christian Borobudur, there are no Christian elements in Wayang (which is a Hindu-Buddhist leftover), the Majapahits weren’t Christian, etc. and etc. ad infinitum. There is simply no question what the religion and culture was pre-Islam.
There would have been a bit of Christianity there, once, but nothing that competed with what I described.
What there is now was brought by the European colonizers. In order to even begin preaching Christianity they had to conquer the Muslims which had already taken over. They were behind the Muslims by decades and had to re-convert what was already a Muslim society.
And I’m not arguing about what Islam has done. I’m just saying that after the earliest centuries it has become an entity more like the black death than the Soviet Union.
It is not centrally directed, there is no plan, there is no strategy, it has outbreaks, it has infections, it attacks the weak because to do so is its nature, etc.
There are, occasionally, effective polities infected by Islam, like the old Ottoman Turks. That, independent of Islam, did have long term plans and a strategy. But Islam destroys and paralyzes even robust barbarians.
Dr. Warner does a good job of describing Islam's spread in the M.E. and its incursions into Europe, found at the link above. Indonesia is example of Islam's intolerance of others even outside the M.E. Just one of numerous stories documenting it: Indonesia's growing religious intolerance has to be addressed.
This argument isn’t new.
In popular works, V.S.Naipaul made the same case decades ago. Twice, in fact. “Among the Believers” was the first and the one to get. And he did do Indonesia.
I don’t disagree that there was some bit of Christianity in Asia very early. Our disagreement is really about whether it was significant. I say no. Like either Christianity or Judaism in China (this is true, there is a very small, very ancient community of Chinese Jews), in pre European colonialist days, it just wasn’t a popular or widespread religion in those places in those times, and it left no traces in those parts of the pre-Islamic culture that is still apparent in Indonesia.
Despite our differences of when and the amount of influence Christianity had on Indonesia’s development, as long as we both can agree Islam eventually dominated all others, and still seeks to do so, I’m good with you having your opinion and I mine.
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