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Yes, Self Repatriation Will Work (Cruz's Plan)
Barbwire ^ | 12/2/2015 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 12/02/2015 9:53:47 AM PST by conservativejoy

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To: conservativejoy
"No public assistance to illegals and fining employers who hire illegals are also part of Cruz’s plan."

I MAY be able to support this plan (if Trump is not the nominee) IF I could see a source for Cruz stating that he will cut off all Federal Benefits to illegals.

Got anything on that? Or anchor babies...or Welfare for the anchor babies?

Sincerely.

41 posted on 12/02/2015 12:54:25 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: conservativejoy

Read it again. He says “after that” and “then.”


42 posted on 12/02/2015 1:00:25 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Mariner

It’s in his written plan.


43 posted on 12/02/2015 1:43:05 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changed)
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To: Mariner
One of the bullet points in Cruz's immigration plan.

* Prohibit illegal immigrants from receiving financial benefits and strengthen E-Verify. American taxpayers should not be funding benefits for those who are here illegally, and American jobs should not go to those who are here illegally.

44 posted on 12/02/2015 1:48:28 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Cobra64

It makes sense to secure the border to keep those deported from reentry. He thinks that will be a matter of months. All other components run concurrently.


45 posted on 12/02/2015 1:51:19 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
You want to quote the part in that plan that says enforce the laws? First we let everyone stay until they decide to leave, the we go after the criminals, nothing at all about deport or anchor babies.

Wishful thinking does not really set policy.

46 posted on 12/02/2015 1:57:04 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: conservativejoy

Deportation is the only way.

While they are allowed to stay (which equals amnesty) they will have thousands of anchor babies, they will commit thousands of crimes, they will steal millions of jobs under the table.


47 posted on 12/02/2015 2:03:51 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: conservativejoy
No public assistance to illegals and fining employers who hire illegals are also part of Cruz’s plan.

If have been hearing a call for this since Reagan, good luck getting fines for employers through Congress and if you do try getting it enforced.

48 posted on 12/02/2015 2:04:44 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: VanDeKoik

“Are we going to hope that the ISIS goons that cross over the border make their way back as well?”

Excellent point.

Why did it take Cruz months to say this? Too wimpy, too late. I switched to a strong leader months ago.


49 posted on 12/02/2015 2:07:18 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: JohnBovenmyer
It’s in his written plan.

Check is in the mail. The courts have said that politicians are allowed to lie in campaigns. That does not apply to supporters.

50 posted on 12/02/2015 2:09:52 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: conservativejoy

“Five times as many illegals self deported during Operation Wetback as were deported through the program. “

That’s why only Trump’s plan works. Only if they know they will be deported will they leave. Trump won’t have to deport them all, but heeds to say he will and be willing to do so.

Waiting for them to do it themselves, hoping they don’t commit crimes or have anchor babies in the meantime, isn’t the most effective way.


51 posted on 12/02/2015 2:11:46 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

Cruz’s plan calls for ending anchor babies. It is ridiculous to say that removing welfare and employment will not cause self deportation. For example, 85% of illegals in California are on public assistance. I would not be surprised to learn that the percentage holds true in other states, as well.

The more leverage we can use on all these fronts, the better to reach our goals of getting illegal immigration under control for the final phase. Cruz’s plan calls for increased deportations as these measures are implemented. Deporting the criminals and welfare recipients will cut a huge swath right there.


52 posted on 12/02/2015 2:27:52 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy
He spells it out in his immigration plan about removing all illegals from any public assistance.

Illegals already aren't supposed to be on public assistance. Illegals get it through their kids and through fraud. Crus, Carson, the GOPe et al. when they talk about getting "illegals off welfare" are just giving cute talking points.

53 posted on 12/02/2015 2:53:27 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Why don’t you go crawl back in Donald’s lap.


54 posted on 12/02/2015 2:56:38 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy
"Then and only then, I think we should have a conversation with the American people about what we should do about whatever smaller population remains. But I don't think we should start there at the front end. We should start with border security, and that's what I'll do as president."

In other words, Cruz, who is still using the 11 million number for illegals, is setting us up to tell us that the "border is enforced," and therefore we should now talk about giving legal status to those who remain.

No thanks Cruz.

55 posted on 12/02/2015 2:57:40 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: conservativejoy

God, I’m glad he’s ending anchor babies.

So he will deport those on welfare? Oh wait, if they’re not on welfare they will have jobs. Under the counter jobs because of E-verify. So many that currently have under the counter jobs would just stay. There would have to be very strong and enforced actions against employers that hire illegals.

I like Cruz’s plan, don’t get me wrong. But I love Trump’s plan. I waited months for Cruz to say anything about illegals and gave up eventually. Trump came out of the gate strong.

But either is heads above any other candidate’s plan. I’ve been waiting since the days of Tancredo for another candidate to take this seriously. And now we have 2 that have a good chance to win ;)


56 posted on 12/02/2015 2:58:54 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

I meant ‘good’


57 posted on 12/02/2015 2:59:26 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

Cruz calls for strict E verify measures and enforcement against employers hiring illegals. I think it would be good to add a reward system to those who turn in employers hiring illegals, as another Freeper said.

Cruz has always had this plan. It just frustrated me so that he hasn’t pushed it before now.


58 posted on 12/02/2015 3:02:16 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: nomad
Works pretty well for unlicensed software. Few companies will even risk keeping unlicensed software with the incentives to turn them in. It could just as easily be the loyal worker wanting to make a little extra income as the disgruntled employee who got fired last week.

They never know.

59 posted on 12/02/2015 4:49:11 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: conservativejoy

I was frustrated too. I kept defending him on the H1Bs and his silence in the beginning, saying he had a plan and would explain it. Took him long enough!

Yes, yes, LOVE the idea of rewarding informants. Otherwise it will be hard to catch the dishonest employers. Just making an example of a few would be a good start. The fine needs to be big with jail an option.


60 posted on 12/02/2015 4:49:48 PM PST by CottonBall
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