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One civilian victim of Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting identified
Colorado Springs Gazette ^ | November 29, 2015 | Maria St. Louis-Sanchez and Michelle Karas

Posted on 11/29/2015 1:12:20 PM PST by csvset

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To: ilovesarah2012

I was thinking that the police didn’t want to name the victims until the autopsies because they needed to know who shot them.


61 posted on 11/29/2015 2:27:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: austingirl

gotcha! Thanks.


62 posted on 11/29/2015 2:29:02 PM PST by bonfire
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To: MayflowerMadam; Artcore; libertarian27
Clarifying who was shot and where will determine if the attack was specific to PP.

There is some dispute about the chain of events.

Post 12

Here’s a broadcastify audio of the first 30 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiwu0Q46ZhI
Not many people have listened to it on that link, 8,000 views. I don’t think many people are aware that Dear wasn’t inside the building during the first 30 minutes when police were on scene and on the scanners. In this audio the first shooting victim was at Elite Vision, the building in front of Planned Parenthood.

63 posted on 11/29/2015 2:31:36 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

yep


64 posted on 11/29/2015 2:36:04 PM PST by machogirl
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To: DJ MacWoW
Got a document does not exist on this server message for your link.

The shooting started outside and I do recall that there was a victim at the vision store. The perp was hiding behind PP. My question- did the cops enter PP pre-emptively thinking it was the target and did the perp follow them in. I saw on one website that the police rounded up those in PP and moved them to the second floor and perp was shooting through walls toward LE outside. All lost in the liberal narrative.

65 posted on 11/29/2015 2:38:26 PM PST by austingirl
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To: csvset
In the media, this has become "The Planned Parenthood Shooting".

That's their title and they are sticking to it.

The victims could all have been surly window clerks at a McDonald's drive through and the shooter ducked into a building at random, but the presence of a Planned Parenthood facility at that location would (in their minds) justify a catchy title with alliteration that reinforces the whole fiction they are attempting to create of the Right Wing Christian Conservative White (racist!) Domestic Terrorist.

They are, of course, desperate for examples of such as they are singularly difficult to come by.

That, however, won't slow down using a misleading title and headlines to push the concept.

66 posted on 11/29/2015 2:38:29 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: austingirl
Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood Shooting Police Response - audio police scanner
67 posted on 11/29/2015 2:41:03 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks for the link. At minute 3 it is clearly stated that someone was shot at Elite Vision. Also that shooter was outdoors.


68 posted on 11/29/2015 2:45:48 PM PST by austingirl
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To: austingirl

Yup. Kinda spoils the left’s narrative.


69 posted on 11/29/2015 2:48:37 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Kent1957
Well, yea, that may be true. They could be friends or relatives or baby daddies with the mother and not be staff or a patient.

The family of the woman killed said she was at the clinic supporting a friend.

70 posted on 11/29/2015 2:51:54 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: csvset

The more I read the less I know. How many victims? 1, 2, 3 or more? How many perps? 1? Where in Colorado, exactly did the shooting happen? At pp or down the street from pp?


71 posted on 11/29/2015 2:54:20 PM PST by This I Wonder32460 (Ideas have consequences.)
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To: Gasshog
Shooter is a crazy person in jail, and he will never be released and probably not executed

Don't count on the never be released part.

Even as we talk here there are individuals inside large well funded organizations working on his release.

Those organizations have only one objective, allowing killers such as this this free roaming in open society, with no markings that would allow innocent people to recognize the danger they present.

72 posted on 11/29/2015 2:55:48 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Good work. The shooting did NOT start at PP.

There sure have been some persistent little trolls this weekend.


73 posted on 11/29/2015 2:59:05 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: Patriot Babe
I am not sure if this Facebook belongs to a Jennifer Markovsky who lives in Colorado Springs.

https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.markovsky?fref=ts

That's the right one. Correct maiden name. Correct high school.

74 posted on 11/29/2015 2:59:22 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Smokin' Joe
In the media, this has become "The Planned Parenthood Shooting".

Exactly. Why even investigate ? /s

If the shooter's goal was to attack PP, why didn't he massacre everyone in there?

The narrative about the shooting being an attack on PP stinks.

75 posted on 11/29/2015 3:05:19 PM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Artcore

I want a better word than “civilians” to call people who aren’t police officers.

I think “clinic worker” or “clinic visitor” or “passer-by” would do here.


76 posted on 11/29/2015 3:06:38 PM PST by heartwood
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To: SisterK
Thanks!

Witness accounts conflict with 'Planned Parenthood shooting' narrative

77 posted on 11/29/2015 3:07:22 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Artcore
Okay, sorry if I’m a little thick here, but this article does not make it clear...at least to me, if this person and the other were murdered in the PP Clinic itself?

According to his sister, Stewart had stepped out of PP in order to get cell phone service. After he was shot, he ran back in and warned everyone to flee.

Jennifer Markovsky was accompanying a friend to the PP clinic when she was shot dead and her friend wounded in the hand.

78 posted on 11/29/2015 3:10:10 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: heartwood

I want a better word than “civilians” to call people who aren’t police officers.

I think “clinic worker” or “clinic visitor” or “passer-by” would do here.
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Fair enough.


79 posted on 11/29/2015 3:11:08 PM PST by Artcore
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To: csvset

This says he’s married, but NBC interviewed a woman who had an appointment at PP and said her BOYFRIEND was missing.
Wonder if that’s part of the delay...


80 posted on 11/29/2015 3:30:57 PM PST by GnuThere
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