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Chief Of Russian Air Force Accuses Turkey Of Coordinated Ambush On Downed Jet
Zero Hedge ^ | 27 Nov 2015 | Tyler

Posted on 11/27/2015 9:30:12 AM PST by amorphous

By now everyone is aware of the Turkish side of the story of how a Russian Su-24 was downed by a Turkish F-16 on Tuesday morning, when it allegedly crossed into Turkish airspace for a grand total of 17 seconds, with Turkey supposedly warning the Russian bomber which had been targeting alleged jihadists in the region no less than "ten times." Turkey even produced an alleged recording of said warning, which Russia implied was faked as the surviving pilot made it very clear no actual warning had been received by the Russian warplane.

So now that Russia has had three days to go through the evidence and assemble the pieces of what it thinks happened, here is the summary as presented earlier today by the Commander in Chief of the Russian air force, Viktor Bondarev, which however presents a very gloomy picture with dire consequences for the peaceful geopolitics of the middle east.

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: isis; rebels; turkey; ww3
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Timeline and charts at link above:
1 posted on 11/27/2015 9:30:12 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

No doubt in my mind that this ambush was co-ordinated between Obama and Turkey.


2 posted on 11/27/2015 9:36:06 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Obama’s support of ISIS is being exposed.


3 posted on 11/27/2015 9:39:24 AM PST by ground_fog
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To: amorphous

I too count on Russian FSB sponsored websites for all my hard news.


4 posted on 11/27/2015 9:43:06 AM PST by Agog
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To: amorphous

5 posted on 11/27/2015 9:43:12 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: amorphous

I’m ashamed our President is support ISIS and Turkey who supports ISIS. And now the truth is coming out


6 posted on 11/27/2015 9:44:41 AM PST by realcleanguy
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To: amorphous

This is really rotten. First, my sympathies to the Russians and especially the family members of those servicemen. Second, whoever made these decisions need to be held accountable. That would require honesty and an interest in truth plus integrity on our part, which may be impossible under Obama. I go along with the idea that Obama is the one responsible.

A violation of that Oct. agreement with Russia should be a very serious thing.


7 posted on 11/27/2015 9:50:49 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: realcleanguy
He is disgusting to say the least. And worse, his treacherous ways have rubbed off on America herself.

He could well be that man of sin, the son of perdition.

8 posted on 11/27/2015 9:53:39 AM PST by amorphous
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9 posted on 11/27/2015 9:54:05 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Agog

Media are corrupt worldwide. Regardless, the basic timeline facts are what they are. The time it takes to prepare for an attack, to record and report it, to respond...are what they are. In this incident some facts cannot be disputed. You can dispute if the Turkey airspace was violated for 17 seconds or zero seconds, but you cannot dispute that incriminating timeline. It HAD TO BE pre planned.


10 posted on 11/27/2015 9:54:33 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: amorphous

I don’t think it is logical to believe that the Americans with such a tight leash on our own pilots would give the Turks the green light to shoot down a Russian jet. However, I do believe that the Muslim radicals running Turkey would take that step on their own without pre warning NATO or the US. If that is the case, its time to stop sharing information with them until a responsible government can take over the country.


11 posted on 11/27/2015 9:59:27 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
I'm afraid this will go down as a large stain on America's honor - thanks be to Obama. But it comes as no surprise.

After all, how many times has he stabbed his fellow Americans in the back?!

12 posted on 11/27/2015 10:02:17 AM PST by amorphous
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13 posted on 11/27/2015 10:03:38 AM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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To: amorphous

Is history trying to repeat itself? Could we substitute that Russian jet for Franz Joseph and his wife? Are the cards lining up that way?


14 posted on 11/27/2015 10:12:41 AM PST by armydawg505
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“If Putin is in indeed onboard with this version, he will deem - perhaps not diplomatically, but certainly in internal circles - Turkey’s aggression to be an act of war, and not only by Turkey but by NATO and the US, which provided Turkey with the data it needed to lead to a Russian loss of life.”

And here are the fruits of an American population stupid enough to elect a muslim/ISIS symp into the White House not once, but TWICE. MORONS.


15 posted on 11/27/2015 10:15:16 AM PST by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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According to these Russian provide charts, the Russian jet passed 1KM south of the Turkish ridges protruding into Syria. The Turkish jet actually penetrated Syrian airspace.

The missile hit the Russian jet at 10.16 which impacted the ground at 10.24. That's 8 seconds according to the Russians, and if the times are in seconds, or if I'm even reading that correctly.

Note this could be verified easily by the video. Which I did, and the video shows it took about 25 - 30 seconds from the time the aircraft was hit until it impacted, though actual missile detonation is hard to determine from the video.

Sounds travels 1 mile in 7 seconds, and I'm quite sure the jet was well below that. And it descended at a fairly steep angle at the end. So my SWAG is it traveled 2 - 3 miles after hit by the missile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwsrgyLQFuQ

With a accurate map of the impact site, one could independently calculate where the missile strike occurred with a good amount of accuracy. That would go a long way in verifying this information submitted by the Russian.

Another thing, If the Russians were totally off base / lying, I would expect counter charts / data from NATO about now.

16 posted on 11/27/2015 10:28:05 AM PST by amorphous
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To: piytar

See #16


17 posted on 11/27/2015 10:29:09 AM PST by amorphous
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To: ground_fog
Obama’s support of ISIS is being exposed.

Not just Obama...anyone who supports defending Turkey and enforcing a 'no-fly' zone over Syria is culpable.

Rubio, Christie, Fiorina, Kasich, and Jebito come to mind immediately...

18 posted on 11/27/2015 10:30:36 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: armydawg505

Could be, as we shall soon see, IMHO.


19 posted on 11/27/2015 10:34:39 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous
The following excerpt from the article makes it clear Putin was referring to Turkey and the US(especially their Presidents), when he referred to the incident as a "stab in the back."

We told our US partners in advance where, when at what altitudes our pilots were going to operate. The US-led coalition, which includes Turkey, was aware of the time and place where our planes would operate. And this is exactly where and when we were attacked.

Sure hope Obama's tea leaf reading improves quickly. Also he should personally apologize to Putin and make some kinda restitution. Putin can still make problems for Obama and whatever plans he has once he is no longer president.

Notice there is no reference to an offensive video. Unlike Obama and Hillary, it appears Putin takes it seriously when Russian personnel are killed by the enemy.
20 posted on 11/27/2015 10:37:28 AM PST by fingers_crossed
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