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Putin: Turkey 'knew downed fighter jet was Russian'
BBC ^ | November 26, 2015

Posted on 11/26/2015 3:13:53 PM PST by McGruff

Russia has rejected Turkey's claims that it did not know the plane it shot down on the Syria border was Russian.

President Vladimir Putin said Russian planes were easily identifiable and the jet's flight co-ordinates had been passed on to Turkey's ally, the US.

Turkey's president said earlier if it had known the plane was Russian "maybe we would have warned it differently".

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the jet's flight co-ordinates had been passed on to Turkey's ally, the US.

Maybe that's what Putin meant when he said they were stabbed in the back.

1 posted on 11/26/2015 3:13:53 PM PST by McGruff
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To: noone

“A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack” - Turkey’s Erdogan in 2012

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151125/1030698044/erdogan-airspace-violation-contradiction.html#ixzz3sXKS3OZN


2 posted on 11/26/2015 3:16:11 PM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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Putin statement from the Hollande Presser a few hours ago:

“The Americans know in advance the timing and location of our operations, and it seems this information was used by Turkey to hit our plane.”

Any bets you won’t be hearing one whiff of this on CNN?


3 posted on 11/26/2015 3:17:42 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: McGruff

Turkey will rue the day they stabbed Russia, a former friend in the back, just to pall around with their new best friend ‘President Obama’ the Kenyan. Given the right circumstance, Turkey can quickly end up thrown under the proverbial bus faster that you can say Izmir.


5 posted on 11/26/2015 3:23:44 PM PST by lee martell
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To: tcrlaf

This is major. The obama administration guided the Turks on the outrageous attack on the anti ISIS Russian jet!! OBAMA IS NOW AIDING ISIS!! I WANT THAT SOB IMPEACHED NOW!! we cannot wait any longer!


6 posted on 11/26/2015 3:24:00 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: McGruff

They are just claiming they didn’t know because they are unhappy with the consequences. If they did not know, they would apologize. Period!

As for us knowing the flight ahead of time, it would not surprise me one iota if Obama tried a proxy jab. Completely irresponsible if that is what happened.


7 posted on 11/26/2015 3:31:02 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: tcrlaf

That is a very interesting comment that almost sounds like an accusation. Hey, I’m not meaning it was an unfair or inaccurate thing to say. Just noticing.


8 posted on 11/26/2015 3:32:49 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: WENDLE

It is very major. If true, it is also a terrible thing for the U.S. under Obama to do. Really rotten.


9 posted on 11/26/2015 3:33:43 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I imagine it will be a long time before Russia cooperates with us again. Thanks to the Muslim loving Obama.


10 posted on 11/26/2015 3:40:20 PM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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To: McGruff

Our stupidity in Kosovo convinced the Russians that the U.S. wasn’t a worthwhile partner.


11 posted on 11/26/2015 3:42:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: McGruff

As someone else stated it was an ambush. I tend to agree. It takes time to scramble jets and especially for the limited time the jets was in Turkish airspace.


12 posted on 11/26/2015 3:44:52 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: dfwgator

Clinton backed the wrong side..


13 posted on 11/26/2015 3:52:38 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: McGruff

I’m dense... but Putin is accusing USA of sharing with Turkey exactly where their flights would be based on where Russia told us?


14 posted on 11/26/2015 3:56:30 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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“As someone else stated it was an ambush. I tend to agree. It takes time to scramble jets and especially for the limited time the jets was in Turkish airspace.”

If it was an ongoing thing it wouldn’t be hard. The Russians have never been shy about shooting down aircraft that violated their airspace ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_C-130_shootdown_incident ) so I’m not too willing to cut them a lot of slack when it comes back to bite them in the @ss.


15 posted on 11/26/2015 4:05:47 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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“We are ready to cooperate with the coalition which is led by the United States. But of course incidents like the destruction of our aircraft and the deaths of our servicemen... are absolutely unacceptable,” Putin said at a news conference, standing alongside Hollande.

“And we proceed from the position that there will be no repeat of this, otherwise we’ll have no need of cooperation with anybody, any coalition, any country.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/26/us-mideast-crisis-france-russia-putin-idUSKBN0TF2D320151126-


16 posted on 11/26/2015 4:12:19 PM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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Keep in mind that all this madness is all about the overthrow of Syria. In the beginning...

1) Obama arms local rebels to overthrow Assad.
2) Most of these rebels take the money and the arms and run for the hills.
3) Obama fakes chemical strike to gain political initiative
4) Putin kicks us out of the way and blocks Obama from overthrowing Assad. Then starts bombing the crap out of the rebels we were paying/arming to go after Assad.
5) Obama makes a deal with Turkey to invoke article 5 of the NATO peace-treaty by shooting down a Russian Jetfighter.
6) This puts Putin in check by daring him to retaliate militarily or he will look weak in front of his people.
7) Putin doesn’t take the bait. Instead Putin hits Turkey with a financial attack worth Billions.
8) This now puts Obama in CHECK. Your move Barry!


17 posted on 11/26/2015 4:14:40 PM PST by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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And who was Obama's point man?

The guy is going to get us all killed before he hacks off.

18 posted on 11/26/2015 4:19:17 PM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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To: rwoodward

“Your move, Barry.”

Well, Obama has just imposed sanctions against the Head of the International Chess Federation. (He visited Assad at one time.)


19 posted on 11/26/2015 4:28:45 PM PST by BusterBear (/)
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Yes, and when the pilots parachuted out, they were greeted by a Turkmen welcoming party, who knew exactly where to be.


20 posted on 11/26/2015 4:35:12 PM PST by BusterBear (/)
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