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Republicans All Agree We Need Tax Reform, But Senator Ted Cruz's Plan Holds The Most Promise
The Daily Caller ^ | 11/10/2015 | Gayle Trotter

Posted on 11/10/2015 1:05:03 PM PST by JSDude1

If nothing is certain in life but death and taxes, perhaps it's time to euthanize our tax system.

The current tax system is massively complex and unfair. It discourages entrepreneurship and stunts economic growth. And yet the leading Democratic presidential candidates offer a consistent theme of more taxes.

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Many of the Republican candidates propose tax reforms that promise to change our system from the bottom up to make it simpler, fairer, and growth-oriented.

Of the proposals Senator Ted Cruz's holds the most promise. Cruz's plan would eliminate six categories of taxes: payroll taxes, Obamacare taxes, alternative minimum taxes, overseas profit tax, the corporate tax, and the death tax.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: business; cruz; elections; taxcuts; taxplan
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1 posted on 11/10/2015 1:05:03 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1
NO VAT!

It's a paperwork nightmare.

2 posted on 11/10/2015 1:12:02 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: JSDude1

The 16% business income tax is an improvement over the much higher corporate tax. Those that label it a VAT need to recognize that the amount being passed on to the consumer is much lower than with the current corporate tax, which is also paid by the consumer.

This was a very good article!


3 posted on 11/10/2015 1:18:25 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Paladin2
Yeah, that's the kicker. The guys telling you all the taxes their plan would eliminate don't tell you that

Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Oh, it'll be a thin, thin, really thin tax! (This is called the opening wedge, the sucker bait, and a couple other things.)

4 posted on 11/10/2015 1:18:45 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: JSDude1

All of these plans are meaningless. Congress and the special interests will craft their own version of tax reform. It is just an exercise in futility and hubris for candidates to present these detailed plans that will never see the light of day. The uninformed and the gullible eat these plans up, but they are meaningless.


5 posted on 11/10/2015 1:20:17 PM PST by kabar
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To: JSDude1

Vat is a non-starter and abolishing the IRS is a pipe dream and not likely to happen.


6 posted on 11/10/2015 1:21:51 PM PST by TexasCruzin ( He always hits back.)
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To: JSDude1

How is Cruz’s plan being construed as a VAT when he portrays it as flattening existing corporate taxes?


7 posted on 11/10/2015 1:22:39 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: JSDude1

Anything short of eliminating the income tax and dismantling the IRS is not going to solve anything. Any “reduction” in current rates will only be raised again under a different government.

A national sales tax, collected at the point of purchase by the business is the best, fairest and least corruptible.

Cruz’s plan doesn’t cut it nor do any of the others. Too damned timid. We need REALLY LEADERSHIP! not place holders on a dying country.


8 posted on 11/10/2015 1:25:15 PM PST by upsdriver (Palin/West)
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To: kabar

The AICPA lobby ALONE would kill all of these plans.

Plenty more behind them.


9 posted on 11/10/2015 1:35:33 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Paladin2
[Source article]
Cruz recommends a 16 percent business transfer tax which takes total business receipts, excludes investments (allowing for an immediate 100 percent expensing) and taxes business income at 16 percent.

In other words, it's a VAT without the disclosure.

Everybody's piece in the chain gets taxed 16%. Then the customer steps up for the whole load.

The flat tax on incomes is a plus, though. Although Cruz's scheme could allow business owners to escape personal income taxes by identifying with their businesses and claiming no income, the way the Viet shrimpers did when they first came to America. They paid no wages at all, employed family w/o wages, and then ate their profits. No FICA, no income taxes for the family members.

10 posted on 11/10/2015 1:35:39 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: lentulusgracchus

A VAT tax is pure bureaucratic drag.


11 posted on 11/10/2015 1:37:27 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Paladin2

Please read the whole article before labeling it a VAT.


12 posted on 11/10/2015 1:38:44 PM PST by JSDude1
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ANYTHING that tries to tax exchanges all along the path of manufacturing is unwanted.


13 posted on 11/10/2015 1:40:10 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Cruz also wants to eliminate the IRS, and with it the income tax eventually (and first).

I am sure he can be persuaded to repeal the 16th Amendment too.


14 posted on 11/10/2015 1:40:18 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: ctdonath2

I don’t know the VAT argument is a red herring probably that comes from other campaign’s propaganda arms?


15 posted on 11/10/2015 1:41:15 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

It IS a damned VAT !
You go read it again and if still believe that it isn’t, get someone to read and explain it all for you.


16 posted on 11/10/2015 1:45:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JSDude1

More than likely!


17 posted on 11/10/2015 1:57:47 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: lentulusgracchus

How is it a “VAT”, when corporations are already subject to income & payroll taxes? From what I can tell, all Cruz proposes is flattening those into a single 16% tax eliminating credits/deductions/loopholes.
(Serious question. I don’t see the VAT angle.)


18 posted on 11/10/2015 1:58:07 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: nopardons

“get someone to read and explain it all for you.”

Alright, you’re up. Explain it to us. We’re not stupid, we just don’t see why it’s a VAT when current corporate & payroll taxes aren’t.


19 posted on 11/10/2015 1:59:03 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: kabar

My plan? Have Congress rewrite the tax laws, and in the meantime, abolish payroll tax deductions, and require everyone to figure out what they owe, and pay quarterly. There’d be a tax revolt!
I asked one of my friends how much he made, and he said, “I take home,,,,,.” I told him that his “take home” was not how much he made. He was taken aback. I got him to write down all the taxes he paid on everything he paid for. He was in shock. The former Lib is now very Conservative, as he evaluated his opinions on everything. In other words, he grew up, and started paying attention!


20 posted on 11/10/2015 2:04:35 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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