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Russian Airliner With 224 People Aboard Believed Shot Down By Missile Over Central Sinai
Debka ^ | October 31, 2015

Posted on 10/31/2015 6:25:29 AM PDT by Strategy

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To: silverleaf

I am sad to say, that is the way that human nature works, in my experience. We poor descendants of orchid thieves seek revenge, even when it is paid by other innocents.


41 posted on 10/31/2015 6:53:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Men need a reason to shop. Women need a place.)
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To: nomad

Did a little research this morning and I don’t think a Stinger or similar MANPAD can be ruled out. A bomb on board is also possible.


42 posted on 10/31/2015 6:54:49 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Buy gold, silver, land, guns, and ammo.)
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To: House Atreides

“Wow, if this is true, I wonder if detailed analysis will determine that it was shot down with one of the anti-aircraft missiles that Obama & Hillary had smuggled from Libya to “anti-Assad forces” (i.e., the Islamists).”

Shoulder fired surface-to-air missiles do not have the range necessary to reach the 30,000 foot plus altitude of this aircraft. If the report of a surface-to-air missile (SAM) is true, the SAM would have to be a full size SAM, launcher, and associated fire control radar systems vehicles.


43 posted on 10/31/2015 6:56:31 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: saintgermaine

Okay, Ken, we get it, we get the gist.


44 posted on 10/31/2015 6:56:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Men need a reason to shop. Women need a place.)
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To: gaijin
I was skeptical at first also, but: how do we know the aircraft was at 35,000 feet? Maybe it was lower.

Would a launch from a mountain at 4,000 feet increase the service altitude of a Stinger?

Wiki says the range of a Stinger in 1987 was 26,000 feet. Were the Benghazi variants or the ones manufactured by Roketsan in Turkey capable of just a bit more altitude?

There are not too many things that bring a plane down cruising at 35,000 feet. You are looking for a bomb, a missle, or a catastrophic engine explosion.

That aircraft was definitely over bandit country.

45 posted on 10/31/2015 7:03:10 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Buy gold, silver, land, guns, and ammo.)
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To: Nervous Tick

If there is one thing Pooty Putin don’t worry about is Political Correctness.

Aside from fighting on Russian soil, they may be ruthless, but not necessarily effective (i.e. Afghanistan).


46 posted on 10/31/2015 7:10:22 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Bernard
Gee, I hope they can sort the good ones from the bad ones so that no innocents get hurt.

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Putin doesn't roll that way, unlike the pantywaist Obozo:

Putin: No Need to Distinguish between "Moderate" & Other Terrorists

47 posted on 10/31/2015 7:16:43 AM PDT by Qiviut
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To: nralife
Also on Reuters: Russian airliner with 224 aboard crashes in Egypt's Sinai, all killed, except for the part about a missle.
48 posted on 10/31/2015 7:21:25 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Strategy

Prays for survivors


49 posted on 10/31/2015 7:24:10 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full fo)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Stingers can be air launched, greatly extending their range.

From their manufacturer:

“Raytheon, which anticipates additional business for helicopter-launched Stingers in the Middle East and Southwest Asia,”


50 posted on 10/31/2015 7:24:53 AM PDT by wrench
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To: ETL

Yes, the crash appears to be a Russian accident set up but Putie .


51 posted on 10/31/2015 7:27:08 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full fo)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
The thing I fear is a US involvement via some US missiles being given to terrorists,(Benghazi) which were then used to do this.

IF so, then we could see a reversal of roles used against the US by Russia in aiding terrorists to get REAL weapons across the porous border to sleeper cells here with a subsequent campaign of domestic terror attacks.

Simple example: the Christmas season approaches and malls are a terrifying potential starter for terrorists armed with a plastique like the notorious cemtex.

52 posted on 10/31/2015 7:28:24 AM PDT by nomad
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To: Jane Long

“Another Airbus, tail fell off”.


53 posted on 10/31/2015 7:28:40 AM PDT by 9422WMR ("Ignorance can be cured by education, but stupidity is forever.")
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To: ilovesarah2012; windcliff; stylecouncilor

“Technical issues” that would bring down an A-321 are very, very rare.


54 posted on 10/31/2015 7:29:48 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Flightradar24.com tracked the plane to 30k+ feet before it came down.

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/ei-etj/#7d986d3

Press play button to see.


55 posted on 10/31/2015 7:32:04 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: nomad
"The thing I fear is a US involvement via some US missiles being given to terrorists,(Benghazi)..."

I think you can take this one to the bank.

I am coming to the conclusion that the US government facilitated the creation of ISIS. For certain, by not bombing it into the stone age, they have been protecting it for years. Is Assad worse than ISIS? Your president thinks so.

For some reason your Nobel PEACE Prize winning POTUS is now putting special forces in Syria. What is America's vital interest in making this move? Why is Obama rushing towards an armed confrontation with the Russians?

56 posted on 10/31/2015 7:36:10 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Buy gold, silver, land, guns, and ammo.)
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To: nomad

At that altitude, if it was not a malfunction, then it was more probably a bomb than a missile.


57 posted on 10/31/2015 7:36:17 AM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: Strategy

The ME’s a bottomless hellhole for Russians and Americans...


58 posted on 10/31/2015 7:39:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Imagine if the GOPe fought Dems as hard as they fight Repubs. - freeper bray)
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To: Krosan
33,500 feet, less the height of the launch site (4,000 feet?), less the range of the original Stinger (1987 model 10,000 feet, later variants up to 26,000 feet?).

Impossible? Maybe.

59 posted on 10/31/2015 7:42:29 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Buy gold, silver, land, guns, and ammo.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

And in such a state life is nasty, brutish, and short.


60 posted on 10/31/2015 7:43:16 AM PDT by Clyde5445
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