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House Republicans Renege on Every Promise with Infuriating Budget Deal
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | October 28, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/28/2015 5:04:50 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: mkjessup

Even though we continue to contend with one another, I do want to mention that I do appreciate your kind words back up the thread.


141 posted on 10/31/2015 7:31:03 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Well what have you learned then?

Who ARE you supporting this time around, or are you going to launch another campaign for the White House?

Curious minds want to know such things.


142 posted on 10/31/2015 7:32:31 AM PDT by mkjessup (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe, RINOs & the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass)
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To: EternalVigilance
Even though we continue to contend with one another, I do want to mention that I do appreciate your kind words back up the thread.

They were written sincerely. I have always held you in great respect, make no mistake about that. The only thing I am 'contending' with at this point is the tendency of some purist FReepers to point their fingers, second guess the motivations of other FReepers as to why they did thus-and-so, when that train has left the station, once again - the past is past, and the most important thing now is to focus on the present, which is still dynamic and is something we can influence, nothing more and nothing less.
143 posted on 10/31/2015 7:36:04 AM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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To: mkjessup

I’m still looking for a candidate who will keep the most important fundamental obligations of his oath, and thereby represent me and what I believe.

If the Republicans won’t give us one, we’ll do what we can to make sure there is one on the ballot. If nothing else, we’ll once again rob the compromisers of any legitimate excuse, just like we’ve done the last two presidential election cycles.

As to the question of whether I’ll run again? Don’t want to. What sane person would? The personal abuse is beyond anything that those who have never experienced it could possibly understand. But I probably will do it again if no one else can be found.

What can I say? I believe you should ‘lead, follow, or get out of the way.’


144 posted on 10/31/2015 7:43:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Sincerely and honestly said. Thank you for that.

I wish you well.


145 posted on 10/31/2015 7:54:11 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

Thanks again.

Look, at least speaking for myself, these sorts of reviews of the recent past may be a bit harsh at times, but they are not personal.

However, we are talking about fundamental approaches to how we do politics that are going to determine whether or not the republic is ever going to be revived and preserved for our posterity.

As they say, ‘politics ain’t beanbag.’

I’m getting old. In the great scheme of things, I won’t be around that much longer, no matter how you cut it.

But I’ve got nine kids and three grand kids so far, and what is going to happen to them matters a whole lot to me.

And so, I continue in my firm belief that the only way to save the republic is to reestablish the plumb line of principle that made the greatness of this country possible in the first place, and to then convince my fellow Americans that they must stop compromising the things that should be beyond political compromise.


146 posted on 10/31/2015 7:56:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

I understand what you mean EV. I’m getting a bit long in the tooth myself. While I try to remain optimistic about Americans using the soap box and the ballot box to turn this Nation around, I believe that ultimately we will have to get out that last box:

The ammo box.


147 posted on 10/31/2015 7:59:14 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

Well, again, no sane person wants these things to be settled violently, if it can possibly be avoided.

But...

‘If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.’

— Winston Churchill


148 posted on 10/31/2015 8:15:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
I seldom miss an opportunity to post a picture of the great man, for a change here is one from his youth:

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149 posted on 10/31/2015 8:23:40 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

Good one.

‘Never give in ... never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.’

— Winston Churchill


150 posted on 10/31/2015 8:33:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: mkjessup
I was at a place the other night where my choice was either Coke or Pepsi. Or water. Guess what I opted for? You assumed "restaurants," dear. WRONG assumption, and in any case a red herring.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Absolutely correct -- as a matter of fact, the hindsight that served me well in my decision to vote for a plurality in 2012, was derived from 35 years of voting your way, exactly as you advise, and using the same rationale, as in your post 106. I've already tried your way -- for more than three decades.

My 20/20 hindsight, which was also adopted by enough fellow conservatives in 2012, served our nation and all "conservatives" who voted for Romney very well -- the bastard lost, and you, MKJ, are off the hook for all the garbage statism and amoral evil he would done in your name with your endorsement.

Yes, your endorsement. Whether he was your first, second, or 100th choice is totally beside the point, as relevant to the outcome as potato chips are relevant to bicycle tires.

Most important, though, is that your entire strategy is based on an illusion -- that of voting "against." I believed in that illusion for decades, the same as you do still. I finally wised up -- you are still laboring in blindness.

You are basing your strategy along the same lines as someone planning a trip by using unicorns as the mode of transportation. Because you are beginning on a totally false, imaginary premise -- that of voting "against," the results are GUARANTEED to fail. And they have failed and will continue to fail. Voting "against" is as real is unicorns -- and you will get the same results by depending on either one to deliver them.

151 posted on 10/31/2015 8:36:14 AM PDT by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny

Well thank God we have you Defenders of the Conservative Faith to steer us lesser mortals into the light.


152 posted on 10/31/2015 8:47:48 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Norm Lenhart; BlackElk; mkjessup; All
Yep!!! I've had people say, "But I voted against Prop XYZ on the ballot!"

And I tell them what my dear wise ol' pop would say: No, you voted for nixing Prop XYZ.

For so many decades I believed in voting "against," the same as our FRiend MKJessup and so many others still believe. Thinking that a goal can be accomplished by relying on an imaginary resource, is folly; the goal will remain elusive every time. It's like planning with wisdom and precision a nice trip, itinerary, budgeting and saving up for plane tickets and hotels, etc. -- and counting on the Tooth Fairy to act as your travel agent. No matter how good the plan, the trip will never materialize because from the git-go, you've lost it -- there's no such thing as the Tooth Fairy, and there's no such thing as voting "against."

153 posted on 10/31/2015 9:17:03 AM PDT by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: mkjessup

Don’t take it personally, FRiend.


154 posted on 10/31/2015 9:17:28 AM PDT by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: mkjessup
And ... did you miss the part that I, like many others here, have already tried your way? For decades? If your way is so smart, when is it going to start working? Because so far, all that has happened is things have gotten worse. You're the one who brought up "Hindsight is always 20/20." EXACTLY RIGHT -- it is that hindsight that finally helped me, and many other lesser mortals on the same level as you, to see things more clearly.

Again, please resist the temptation to take personal offense -- I was right there with you for decades, MKJ. And please understand that MANY OF US HAVE ALREADY TRIED YOUR WAY. It fails. And we think we know why -- because it's based on a false premise of voting "against."

155 posted on 10/31/2015 9:22:47 AM PDT by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: BlackElk; EternalVigilance

Amen, Black Elk!!


156 posted on 10/31/2015 9:44:08 AM PDT by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Kaslin
Thought Limbaugh was going to blow a gasket. I had to do some deep breathing/counting myself.

Almost the entire political system has gone off on drunken spending spree now. Recourse? Pretty much nothing at this point.

Finally today, I realized that a complete financial collapse is going to be the only thing bringing this country back to reality. Until recently, I felt the chance of this was 50-75% in the next 10 years. Now, I think it is closer to 75-90%

157 posted on 10/31/2015 9:51:01 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Finny
Again, please resist the temptation to take personal offense -- I was right there with you for decades...

Me too.

158 posted on 10/31/2015 10:27:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Finny; EternalVigilance; All

Again, please resist the temptation to take personal offense -- I was right there with you for decades...


Pretty hard not to take it personal when you and your ilk (and your 'elk') make such posts with such personally aimed vitriol (and if you need examples, you need only review your own posts or if unable to do so, I can go back and quote you verbatim), you Defenders of the Conservative Faith(c) (I think I'm going to copyright that phrase) come roaring into threads like this with your self righteous "I told you so" comments, your self assured judgmental conclusions that this-FReeper or that-FReeper voted for thus-and-so, or said this or that, based upon whatever motives or intents you randomly assign to those FReepers who have (in your not-so-humble opinions) warranted your purist wrath, so don't hand me that crap about "nothing personal FRiend" because that dog won't hunt.

You are far too eager to assign the worst of motives to your fellow FReepers when the fact is that you are NOT mind readers, you do not have the gift of divining the contents of another's mind or soul.

Now as for this deal about voting 'for' or 'against' someone, simple logic dictates that if you have two candidates, and you cast your vote for 'candidate 1' that by default, you have voted AGAINST 'candidate 2', and vice versa. And it also stands to reason that if (as in 2012) a potential vote that was NOT cast for the Republican ticket, resulted in NOT nullifying a vote that was cast for the 'RAT ticket. It's nothing but a numbers game, if Obama ended up with 'x' number of votes in 2012, if you factor in the total number of votes that were NOT cast for Romney, you end up with the equation of 'x' + 'number of votes not cast' which effectively increased the margin of victory for Obama. It's not rocket science.

You can twist words into all sorts of pretzel-like pseudo logic, but you cannot escape the mathematical truth of the formula I have just described for you.

But to return to the original "don't take it personal" comment of yours, I do exclude EV from my observations of the type and tenor of the comments from 'you and your elk' (that's just some subtle humor there in case you didn't get it the first time), because Eternal Vigilance has always conducted himself as a gentleman without any accusatory rancor directed at others.

The rest of you Defenders of the Conservative Faith would do well to emulate him.
159 posted on 10/31/2015 11:16:57 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Kaslin

Has the projected annual deficit been projected relating to the two year budget?


160 posted on 10/31/2015 11:22:18 AM PDT by relentlessly
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