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Have the secrets of a lost civilisation finally been unearthed?
telegraph.co.u ^ | 4 October 2015 • 8:00am | Rupert Hawksley

Posted on 10/28/2015 10:41:05 AM PDT by Trumpinator

Based on Hancock's own investigations and interviews with archaeologists and astronomers, the book claimed survivors of this cataclysm, the giant flood remembered in myths all around the world, went on to settle in locations from Mexico to Egypt and impart their ancient knowledge to the other remaining humans.

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"Let's get to grips with that first of all," he says. "The foundations upon which history is based look increasingly suspect. Let's no longer shroud ourselves in the illusion that [mainstream] historians and archaeologists are invincible."

There are, according to Hancock, two smoking guns. Firstly, naondiamonds - types of diamonds that result from a cosmic impact - were discovered recently in North America. In 2014, the Journal of Geology confirmed that this matter was formed 12,800 years ago.

"For someone who proposed [in Fingerprints of the Gods] a giant cataclysm between 12,000 and 13,000 years ago, it is a bit of a gift from the universe to have a bunch of very major scientists now saying that there was indeed a giant comet impact 12,800 years ago," he says.

Secondly, excavations at an archaeological site in Turkey called Göbekli Tepe have uncovered ruins that are at least 11,600 years old. That is more than 6,000 years older than other megalithic sites such as Stonehenge. A civilisation capable of the advanced architecture and art discovered at Göbekli Tepe is not supposed to have existed 11,600 years ago.

So what is the explanation?

"We're looking at a place where the survivors of a lost civilisation settled." References to these survivors – described as sages, magicians or "mystery teachers of Heaven" – can be found in various cultures, he adds.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ancientaliens; cataclysm; catastrophism; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; grahamhancock; history; turkey; vondaniken
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1 posted on 10/28/2015 10:41:05 AM PDT by Trumpinator
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To: Trumpinator

Humans have been around a whole lot longer than most scientists realize.


2 posted on 10/28/2015 10:43:08 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Trumpinator
Have the Secrets of a Lost Civilization Finally Been Unearthed?

That's what I'm thinking when I watch old PR films about the space program and the atomic energy program that were made back in the 1950s and early 1960s.

There's lots of them on YouTube. You can get a glimpse of a nation that was on top of its game.

3 posted on 10/28/2015 10:43:54 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: GraceG
I would modify your statement and say civilized humans - as in builders of complexes have been around longer than archeologists have assumed.

I find that fascinating.

4 posted on 10/28/2015 10:47:10 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator

Leading archaeologists have been denouncing his theories for decades. He has been compared to The Da Vinci Code author Dan Brown and dismissed as a pseudo archaeologist or “Pyramidiot”. The organisation for whom he is delivering a talk on October 15 - the “mind, body and spirit company” Alternatives - also hosts events about ghosts, clairvoyance and the paranormal.

Hancock has no formal qualifications in archaeology, history or astronomy. His long-standing interest in hallucinogenic drugs – “they are something that society really needs” – has not enhanced his reputation either.


5 posted on 10/28/2015 10:48:32 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Steely Tom

I don’t know if there is a technical term for it but it can be said as we advance in knowledge we as a species lose knowledge as well. We would not be able to easily build the pyramids again - we can build a sky scrapper of a tower using steel beams but can’t really do the stone masonry on the pyramid scale well any longer.

Flint tools are inferior to metal in some ways but they are also superior in others - they hold their edge forever and don’t decay like metal does. As we learned to work with metal we lost the ability to flint nap, etc.

I read an article a few years ago that the knowledge to maintain or rebuild some missiles is lost because the people who made them and maintained them retired and died and did not impart that knowledge to a new generation so making a space manned vehicle would mean having to re-learn things known in the 60s and 70s.


6 posted on 10/28/2015 10:51:37 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: thackney

None of that makes him wrong, though

I am one who strongly beleive there are lost civilizations we know nothing about. Look at some of the monoliths with stones weighing hundreds of tons.

We could not even move them today with modern eqipment, let alone cut them with laser-like precision from out of a mountain side.


7 posted on 10/28/2015 10:54:44 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: Mr. K
None of that makes him wrong, though

Sure. Nor does it give any support to his claim it will happen again in 2030. Or support the need to buy his book, as was the real point of the article.

8 posted on 10/28/2015 10:56:06 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Trumpinator

This guy sounds like he knows about Velikovsky.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=velikovsky%2C+immanuel&tag=googhydr-20&index=stripbooks&hvadid=83541130589&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=s&hvrand=8842792362405081681&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_3zcqu1r6dm_b


9 posted on 10/28/2015 10:56:26 AM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO strategy: anti-American, anti-Western, pro-Islamic, pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood.)
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To: thackney

Scientists don’t like their turf being challenged. They don’t even want this guy giving a lecture on his theory (the article calls into question the loss of academic spirit of inquiry and dissent to group think).

http://www.camelcitydispatch.com/graham-hancock-is-the-devil-5984/

Graham Hancock is The Devil

Dr. Jon Epstein
Department of Sociology and Criminal Justice
Greensboro College

The level of intellectual dishonesty embedded in this note is staggering. In more than 30 years as an academic and researcher I can honestly say I have never seen anything that approached the level of hubris it expresses. While it is clear that the writer is passionate in defending the discipline of archaeology, it is equally clear that what is at stake here, ultimately, is intellectual turf. However, if defending a paradigm makes treachery necessary, it may be a good time to do some soul searching.

One of the first things you learn in an undergraduate logic course is that ad hominem arguments are an obvious sign of intellectual deceit. It is simply not possible to make an informed, critical, and fair assessment of a writer’s entire body of work without ever having read a single word. Additionally, I do not allow my students to consider a perfunctory Google search to be an adequate way of critically considering any topic, let alone one that results in the kind of denigration expressed above, and it is absolutely inappropriate for an academic “scientist” to do so.

Hancock identifies himself as an investigative journalist who reports on prehistory. He has on numerous occasions tried to make clear that he is NOT an archaeologist or a scientist. He has done this in writing, in interviews, and on television. I can’t think of another writer who has gone to greater lengths to explain what it is that they are not. The actual truth of the matter is that the idea that Hancock fancies himself a scientist/archaeologist originated and continues to be perpetuated by archaeologists as a way to then discredit him and discount his work as “pseudoscience.”

The notion that archaeology is “in fact a scientific endeavor” is also not exactly “a fact.” The fact is that the most vocal opposition to the idea of archaeology as a science originates from within archaeology itself, from those who see the discipline as the clearinghouse for a number of interrelated activities, some more scientific than others, and with very little in the way of an overarching theoretical orientation. That is a HUGE problem for any discipline claiming to be a science.

I must admit, however, that I am troubled to discover that archaeology as an institution is being put at risk simply by asking a reporter to give a lecture. I had no idea that the foundations of the discipline were that tenuous. It is certainly a good thing that my discipline of sociology has a firmer grasp because I am subjected to the relentless yammering nonsense of self-proclaimed “experts” every single day of my life. The difference, of course, is that in the case of sociology what is being babbled about are living, breathing human beings; the discussion thus has a certain urgency and immediacy not present in archaeology. Unlike the archaeologists, however, we welcome the challenge and, rather than trying to silence those who may misspeak on our behalf, we provide them a forum, ask hard questions, and educate others in the process. These things, after all, are what science and public debate are for, aren’t they?

 *Hancock earned an honors degree in sociology from Durham University in the UK, where he studied with Stanley Cohen, author of the classic book in the sociology of deviance Folk Devils and Moral Panics. That book, interestingly, provides a very useful way in which to understand Hancock’s relationship to mainstream archaeology. In Cohen’s framework, and for archaeology, Graham Hancock IS the devil.

** I have removed any information from the original Email that could point to its author. I have no desire to engage in personal or professional attacks on anyone, as it is my opinion that the larger issue is with archaeology as a discipline, and not archaeologists as individuals.


10 posted on 10/28/2015 10:57:26 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: GraceG

I was just getting ready to Ping you Grace :)


11 posted on 10/28/2015 10:58:40 AM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: Steely Tom
You can get a glimpse of a nation that was on top of its game.

Yep.. and a nation that was sure of itself, its identity and its role in the world... that is most assuredly a lost civilization.

12 posted on 10/28/2015 10:59:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: Trumpinator

I remember Eric von Daniken and his stories about ancient astronauts. This is just another such effort, a generation later.


13 posted on 10/28/2015 11:01:14 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: matthew fuller
I never heard of him but will pick up his book!

From what little I have pondered on this I always assumed the ancients built huge monoliths because of the earth quakes and severe conditions of the earth. The small stuff would collapse so they built big - over engineered the things. Maybe the reason this "first" civilization is thought to have outposts all over the earth was because they were monitoring the heavens for signs of an approaching cataclysm. Humans don't build things just to build them.

14 posted on 10/28/2015 11:03:59 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator

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15 posted on 10/28/2015 11:05:49 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: GraceG
Humans have been around a whole lot longer than most scientists realize.

But..., but..., but it is "SETTLED SCIENCE"! X (fill in the number) (fill in the scientific discipline) AGREE (repeat ad infinitum)! Once things are "SETTLED", that is what will be regurgitated to countless generations until PROVEN WRONG! Even then, it will take quite sometime for the brain-washed "experts" to die off!

After all, it took millennia for the "enlightened" to accept that the earth revolves around the sun and our moon around the earth!

16 posted on 10/28/2015 11:06:46 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Trumpinator
I read an article a few years ago that the knowledge to maintain or rebuild some missiles is lost because the people who made them and maintained them retired and died and did not impart that knowledge to a new generation so making a space manned vehicle would mean having to re-learn things known in the 60s and 70s.

Yeah, but they were able to figure it out in the first place in just a few years.

Besides, today's materials were not around back then.

I read a couple of weeks ago where Elon Musk's company is manufacturing rocket engines using 3-D printing. All the other big booster companies are jumping on the same bandwagon. ATK, ULA, etc.

17 posted on 10/28/2015 11:09:20 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: ScottinVA

It’s not lost. It’s just not needed, at the moment.

Remember how permanent the USSR seemed? I’m assuming you’re of a certain age here.


18 posted on 10/28/2015 11:11:25 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: matthew fuller
http://jumpingjesush.blogspot.com/2012/10/puma-punku-h-blocks-at-gobekli-tepe.html Check out the similarities from Puma Punku and Gobekli Tepe: There is more. Statues at Gobekli Tepe show the arms in front of the statue gripping the belly like the Easter Island statues, etc. Here is a video lecture of Hancock's ‘Magicians of the Gods’ with a slide show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPgIphDWGY
19 posted on 10/28/2015 11:12:51 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Steely Tom

I have used 3D printing. I can’t imagine anything produced from that would be able to stand the rigors of launch and the vacuum of space. What material are they using? Some super epoxy I imagine. Wow if true.


20 posted on 10/28/2015 11:18:50 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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