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Club for Growth claims credit as Trump drops in Iowa
The Hill ^ | 10/23/2015 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 10/24/2015 7:45:02 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

The fiscally conservative Club for Growth is claiming credit for two new polls that show Donald Trump falling out of first place in Iowa. The Club’s super-PAC, Club for Growth Action, has spent $1 million on ads in Iowa hitting Trump on his past support for universal healthcare, bank bailouts and raising taxes on the wealthy, as well as his current support for eminent domain.

“Two days, and two more polls with the same message that Club for Growth Action reported on Oct. 6: Donald Trump lost his lead in Iowa,” Club for Growth President David McIntosh said in a statement on Friday. “The polls have made it clear: Trump loses when voters know the truth about him. He’s not a conservative, and he’s really just the worst kind of politician." A Bloomberg Politics-Des Moines Register poll released on Friday found Ben Carson surging in Iowa, taking 28 percent support to Trump's 19 percent. That’s a 10-point gain for Carson and a four-point drop for Trump.

That poll comes on the heels of a Quinnipiac University survey released on Thursday that found Carson taking a 28 to 20 lead over Trump in the Hawkeye State. The Club noted that those polls confirmed the finding of their super-PAC’s poll, released in early October, that had Carson taking a 21 to 16 lead over Trump in Iowa. Until this week, Trump had led in every major poll of Iowa since late July, except for one, which found him and Carson in a tie. Trump and the Club for Growth have been publicly warring with each other. The Club has vowed to expose Trump’s “extremely liberal positions on taxes, health care, bailouts, and property rights.” Trump, meanwhile, has threatened a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the “pitiful little group.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: amnesty; clubforamnesty; clubforgrowth; hib; illegals; iowa; trump
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1 posted on 10/24/2015 7:45:02 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

The Club for Growth claiming credit for Trump votes temporarily going to Carson helps Trump in the long term. Now, Dr. Ben is the candidate of the Club for Growth.


2 posted on 10/24/2015 7:49:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

That’s right.


3 posted on 10/24/2015 7:50:25 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Hang in there, Ted!!! Trump’s slippage, with conservatives and evangelicals, in the polls is going to continue, as ads such as these reveal the truth about Trump’s past positions.


4 posted on 10/24/2015 7:50:58 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I’ll bet my vote against their million bucks.


5 posted on 10/24/2015 7:52:20 AM PDT by LoneStar42 (Turn right.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
*Sigh* Is there anyone out there NOT helping Hitlery? I guess she is just too awesome to resist.


6 posted on 10/24/2015 7:52:56 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: mtrott

Not so fast...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3352396/posts


7 posted on 10/24/2015 7:57:36 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

"Club for Growth and Jackson Stephens has my back."

8 posted on 10/24/2015 7:59:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: grania
Now, Dr. Ben is the candidate of the Club for Growth.

No. Oftentimes candidate X attacks candidate Y, with defectors going to Candidate Z. Those who support candidate candidate Z are not "cooperating" with candidate X.

Now, the Club for Growth is NOT a candidate, but are effectively a proxy for the John Ellis Bush/Rubio/Kasich wing of the party. They can't find any way to derail Trump with those three, so they just want to derail Trump with negative ads and figure out a way to help their guys later. Because that is the only viable option at this point.

Let them run their ads, as the Dems will attack Trump from both left and right in the general (using a proxy if need be). Trump has the means to fight back, and this is also an opportunity to move to the right where the ads are true, or expose the lies with more publicity than the original ads got if they are lies.

Carson might be the beneficiary for now, that doesn't mean he is part of that effort or owes Club for Growth anything.
9 posted on 10/24/2015 7:59:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

If you look at the numbers, Trump didn’t really drop.

What happened is that the evangelicals who were backing Walker shifted to Carson.


10 posted on 10/24/2015 8:06:57 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
The Club has vowed to expose Trump’s “extremely liberal positions on taxes, health care, bailouts, and property rights.” Trump, meanwhile, has threatened a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the “pitiful little group.”

They're pulling out statements from years ago and ignoring his policy positions this year, some of them in writing. I doubt the Club for Illegal Alien and Trade Deficit Growth had much, if anything to do with Carson's gains in Iowa.

Someone might need to run some ads informing the voters of the Club's positions on various issues.

11 posted on 10/24/2015 8:09:50 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Helicondelta

People are saying that. You think that’s the case? Did Walker have 8%-10% in Iowa before suspending his campaign?


12 posted on 10/24/2015 8:09:55 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

So, now are we going by what GOP and dem “insiders” say???


13 posted on 10/24/2015 8:10:33 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: LoneStar42

Don’t forget that these are the same people who tried to extort $1 million from Trump in exchange for their support. When he told them to go pack sand, they decided to take him out.

The Club for Growth is slime.

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/trump-2nd-place-iowa-poll-a-sham-paid-for-by-club-for-growth-action/


14 posted on 10/24/2015 8:12:23 AM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: mtrott

No one’s going by what they say. They’re scared of Trump and are finally admitting that he will more than likely be the Republican nominee. It just shows that their bashing of Trump isn’t working and they’re agreeing with those who already support Trump!

Go Trump!


15 posted on 10/24/2015 8:13:22 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Well, either way, I like seeing ANY ads pointing out ANY candidate’s past liberal positions and/or statements, as it serves to hold their feet to the fire and let them know they will be called on it if they swerve to the left.


16 posted on 10/24/2015 8:18:05 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: Dr. Sivana
Carson might be the beneficiary now but that doesn't mean he owes the Club for Growth anything

I'm looking at it from a different angle. If Dr. Carson doesn't disavow the Club for Growth, Trump's going to have a campaign issue since they bragged about their ads that helped Carson and temporarily brought down Trump's percentage.

17 posted on 10/24/2015 8:18:25 AM PDT by grania
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

One poll shows Trump slipping and it is law. Typical Rove trick. Look for the white board to show up on GOPe FOX News any day now in an attempt to convince us that up is down and down is up.

They tried with Fiorina as the one bringing Trump down now it is Carson. Poor souls doesn’t realize that all he is being used for is to take down anyone not named Jeb!


18 posted on 10/24/2015 8:22:21 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

For the umpteenth time.

19 posted on 10/24/2015 8:29:04 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
This poll has a margin of error of 5 points.

Trump has always polled around 20% in Iowa. Walker had 8% in the previous poll. Now Walker is out and Carson surges about 10 points.

There is no evidence that the Club for Growth ads had any impact.

20 posted on 10/24/2015 8:37:28 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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