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Can California Be Saved?
townhall.com ^ | Oct 22, 2015 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 10/23/2015 8:55:25 PM PDT by 100American

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To: Publius

They probably do calculate depreciation. My car was a year old Chrysler LeBaron convertible and they hit me hard. I lived and worked in Tukwila, car theft capital of the US and, yes, I got my car stolen and wrecked. Tukwila suffers from too many melanin enhanced criminals.


21 posted on 10/23/2015 9:18:49 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: tumblindice

Hold on now...

What if the “succession mode were to become real and we seceded like Texas can (we were both formed as Republics, NOT states, look at the flag - California Republic)

Anyway the gravy train from Wash wouldend and the”pay day” mentality would be over and the roaches would followthe goodie train to say...

Your states!!

After all,they are Americans and California is it’sown country...

Not Native Californios...

We will send em back!!

Hey I like this


22 posted on 10/23/2015 9:19:30 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: sparklite2

That’s why I always made it a point to live north of the Ship Canal when I was working. Today I’m only 4 miles from the Canadian border.


23 posted on 10/23/2015 9:20:08 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Flycatcher

I lived for a while in Phoenix before moving on to California. Arizona is nice and I came to love the desert southwest.


24 posted on 10/23/2015 9:20:34 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: Publius

I spent most of the seventies living in Canada as a landed immigrant. It was hard to leave, but we just couldn’t afford the style of housing you take for granted in the US.


25 posted on 10/23/2015 9:22:23 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: 100American

Like I said, Moonbeam’s Norte California: “Who cares?”


26 posted on 10/23/2015 9:24:03 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: sparklite2

I got a hint of the house prices when I was in Vancouver last Sunday attending a classical music concert at UBC.


27 posted on 10/23/2015 9:25:08 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: 100American

How about setting off hydrogen bombs all up-and-down the San Andreas fault?
Sodom and Gomorrah,the Sequel.

For your information only. Read or discard as you see fit.


28 posted on 10/23/2015 9:27:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: 100American
Gas prices are out of sight for the crappiest gas to be had in the US due to CARB, an agency that makes the EPA blush with embarrassment that it is not so facist.

The regulatory bureaucracy set up by the liberals and voters has ruined the state.

Add in the refusal to rein in the public service unions and exorbitant pension plans, piss on them.

The voters there dug their own latrine, let them lie in it.

29 posted on 10/23/2015 9:28:00 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: tumblindice

Moonbeam’s Norte California? What is that?


30 posted on 10/23/2015 9:31:52 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Publius

They don’t allow the deduction of mortgage interest,
and in an other-than-zero-percent-interest-economy
that can be the difference between a semi-detached house,
which is weird in itself, and a ubiquitous highrise condo.


31 posted on 10/23/2015 9:32:08 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: tumblindice

Heh. I see what you did there.


32 posted on 10/23/2015 9:32:41 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: 100American

Why?


33 posted on 10/23/2015 9:36:59 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO strategy: anti-American, anti-Western, pro-Islamic, pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood.)
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To: 100American

Here is a perfect example of what America now looks like but on a “smaller” scale.
Where ever democrats have been in one party rule for any amount of time (years) they ruin what ever they touch. They know nothing of real life, they live in a fantasy world of unicorns and rainbows.
They only care about power. They could care less about the welfare of people, unless they are on welfare and must kiss the kings ring.

I was born in California, lived in Orange county, Santa Ana, I lived there(till 1970)when there were still orange trees in most of the county, and farm land that was still farmed. went back to visit my son when he was stationed at Pendleton,(05), wow, nothing but cement, asphalt, and buildings. Ruined the place.


34 posted on 10/23/2015 9:37:02 PM PDT by coincheck (Time is Short, Salvation is for Today)
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To: Jim from C-Town

“It would be better if we ejected them from the union than absorb their debt and future problems.”

I am a native-born California of some 75 years. I would be the first one to wish that this state would endure a complete financial collapse (which might happen, but probably not in my lifetime). I would take issue with your assertion that California’s welfare is “bankrolled by other states.” If you take a look a recent data. California is a net giver to the federal coffers, while other states, most notably Florida, are huge net takers. Actually, if my memory serves me correctly, Florida is the worst of all the states at feeding at the Federal Trough (something you might want to consider if you’re thinking the Mexican Boosh would make a dandy president). The other thing to consider is what the rest of you are going to eat. Yeah, I know there’s some basic staples grown elsewhere, but even with this moronic drought (that is another man-made artifact of the RATs running things here for too long), the truth here too is that we feed the rest of you. And lastly, as someone has already pointed out here, how California is today is what your state will look like in the not too distant future. So eff you folks who run all this silly $hit about “letting California slide off into the Pacific.” You have your head firmly lodged up your a$$es, and all your name calling won’t help either of us. Rather than berating California, you should be asking yourselves what adult messages and help you can give us, and by extension, yourselves, because it’s later for you than you may think it is.


35 posted on 10/23/2015 9:49:28 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: doorgunner69

The State of California was taken over by Gov’t Unions, sponsored by the wealthiest corporations in the world. The same corporations- that abandoned the other states- and still have every moron, in every state believing that it “just can’t happen to them.” If you can’t realize what happened to your best neighbor, how in Our Nation, can you realize the truth?


36 posted on 10/23/2015 9:49:28 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: 100American

I think they don’t want to be saved. They are proud that their state is totally out of control. Chaos.


37 posted on 10/23/2015 9:53:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Thank you mom for not being "pro-choice." Amen.)
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To: Flycatcher
"I left California in the 90s in a southwesterly direction."

SouthWESTerly?

So …Australia? Or are you another victim of Kalifurnya edjacashunal malpractice?

38 posted on 10/23/2015 10:00:06 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: RedHeeler

Doorgunner69 is just the kind of individual I was speaking of in my post. If he had a scintilla of intellect, he could figure out the kinds of things you bring up, and how they have impacted us all. California was once the envy of the nation. First in everything, now, thanks to years of Jerry Brown and his ilk, we’re last in most categories, but we’ve had “help” from the Feds, and the SCOTUS getting to where we are today.
As an example, the SCOTUS “struck down” bicameral state legislatures crafted after our Constitution. The so-called one man one vote ruling effectively has given the big cities everywhere the ability to control the states in which they reside. So it is that Los Angeles and San Francisco can pretty much make California into whatever loony leftist place they wish. But don’t think it won’t be long before Houston, DFW and San Antonio do the same thing with Texas (if they haven’t already). But as I suspect “doorgunner” will be gunning us all with his mouth once he reads what we’ve written.


39 posted on 10/23/2015 10:00:26 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: 100American
"Can California be saved?"

Not without repentance.

40 posted on 10/23/2015 10:01:23 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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