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Sen. Cruz: We Must Send the Message That Defiance of Our Laws Will No Longer Be Tolerated (Video&T)
Cruz.Senate.gov ^ | October 20, 2015

Posted on 10/20/2015 11:35:57 AM PDT by Isara

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To: subterfuge

what about all those things other FReepers brought up?

they sound pretty bad.

i dont know what to think now.

I LOVED Cruz before all that was exposed.

I WILL vote for the Donald because if he does half of what he says, thing will get better.

Carson seems a bit kooky.

Was Dean in politics before the election. I know he was a doctor and a nut, but i think he was a governor/senator?


21 posted on 10/20/2015 12:48:51 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: ripnbang

Who is your choice?


22 posted on 10/20/2015 12:55:15 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Isara

mark for later


23 posted on 10/20/2015 12:55:37 PM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: Isara

It’s obvious that the Dems value the “illegal” portion of their voter base and won’t give that up without a fight.


24 posted on 10/20/2015 12:57:31 PM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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To: subterfuge

“Have obama JAILED IMMEDIATELY!”

In the cell right next to Hillary.


25 posted on 10/20/2015 12:59:06 PM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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To: dp0622

Don’t believe all Freepers. The forum is infested with subversives. Some are subtle, some not.


26 posted on 10/20/2015 1:05:00 PM PDT by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS! TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: subterfuge

500 percent increase in H1Bs is bad.

the TPP agreement vote was bad.

Voting for Corkers 2/3 bill was bad.

I dont know what to think.

Haven’t seen 1stDivionVet lately. Hope he is ok.

He would refute all this stuff, no doubt.


27 posted on 10/20/2015 1:09:18 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Isara

Problem with Cruz is that he’s spoken with forked tongue on this issue. His amendment to the Gang of Eight bill, though he uses it as an example of him railing against amnesty, would only have barred illegals from a pathway to citizenship. It would not have barred them from receiving permanent residence in this country, which would lead to them getting citizenship anyway:

“And I’d like to make a final point to those advocacy groups that are very engaged in this issue and rightly concerned about addressing our immigration system, and in particular about addressing the situation for the 11 million who are currently in the shadows. If this amendment is adopted to the current bill the effect would be that those 11 million under this current bill would still be eligible for RPI status.** They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed under the terms of the bill they would be eligible for LPR status as well, so that they are out of the shadows, which the proponents of this bill repeatedly point to as their principle objective — to provide a legal status for those who are here illlegally to be out of the shadows. This amendment would allow that to happen …

“And a second point to those advocacy groups that are so passionately engaged. In my view if this committee rejects this amendment, and I think everyone here views it as quite likely this committee will choose to reject this amendment, in my view that decision will make it much, much more likely that this entire bill will fail in the House of Representantives. I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass, and so I would urge people of good faith on both sides of the aisle, if the objective is to pass common sense immigration reform that secures the borders, that improves legal immigration, and that allows those who are here illegally to come in out of the shadows, then we should look for areas of bipartisan agreement and compromise to come together and this amendment — I believe if this amendment were to pass the chances of this bill passing into law would increase dramatically, and so I would urge the committee to give it full consideration and to adopt the amendment.”

http://www.kausfiles.com/2015/05/21/cruz-and-amnesty-round-ii-the-telltale-video/

Another article on this topic, describing how Cruz redefines amnesty as only referring to a “pathway to citizenship,” and won’t declare he supports deportation:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/08/ted_cruz_vs_donald_trump_whos_stronger_on_immigration.html

Cruz’s positions here in this speech are good, but one can’t help but get the feeling that Cruz is selling this as a Pre-Amnesty compromise that, even in what he declares, will probably be rendered ineffective in its final form. IOW, he’ll argue that he’ll “stop what brings illegals,” but then turn around and declare amnesty for the 11 million (actually 40 million) illegals here, though he probably won’t call it amnesty. It’s easy to say that you’ll deport “criminal” illegals. That’s what Obama says he is doing.


28 posted on 10/20/2015 1:09:40 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: dp0622

2ND Division!! sorry VET!!!


29 posted on 10/20/2015 1:11:42 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: dp0622

‘FReepers have destroyed Ted............’

oh most Certainly


30 posted on 10/20/2015 1:32:58 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><> GO CRUZ!!!!)
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Do you know the story behind the H1B visa stuff?

It was in the middle of a battle which Ted Cruz and a few senators fought against the 'Gang of 8' amnesty bill. He offered an amendment to counteract pro-illegal immigration provisions of the amnesty bill.

I, and many people, are grateful that Ted Cruz led this fight. Otherwise, they would have approved amnesty already.

Remember this fight in 2013?

Ted Cruz Crushes Amnesty Proponents: Compares 'Gang of 8' Bill to 'Obamacare' (Video)

Ted Cruz Exposes the Amnesty Bill... $5000 Penalty for Hiring Citizens Over Legalized Aliens (Video)

Sen. Cruz Presents Measure to Strengthen, Improve Legal Immigration Offers amendment to increase H-1B visas to help improve, retain high-skilled labor force

Watch the video

31 posted on 10/20/2015 1:52:07 PM PDT by Isara
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For those who are still confused between TPA and TPP:

What are TPA and TPP?
TPA stands for Trade Promotion Authority, also known as “fast track”. TPA is a process by which trade agreements are approved by Congress. Through TPA, Congress sets out up-front objectives for the Executive branch to achieve in free trade negotiations; in exchange for following those objectives, Congress agrees to hold an up-or-down vote on trade agreements without amendments. For the past 80 years, it has proven virtually impossible to negotiate free-trade agreements without the fast-track process.

TPP stands for Trans-Pacific Partnership. TPP is a specific trade agreement currently being negotiated by the United States and 11 other countries, including Canada, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand. China is not a negotiating partner. There is no final language on TPP because negotiations are still ongoing and have been since late 2009. Neither the Senate nor the House has voted yet on the TPP. There will be no vote on TPP until the negotiations are over and the final agreement is sent to Congress.

Some Key Facts:


32 posted on 10/20/2015 1:54:06 PM PDT by Isara
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For those who still have a gripe about Corker's bill:

Corker Bill:

Ted Cruz's Record of defending U.S. Sovereignty:


33 posted on 10/20/2015 1:56:55 PM PDT by Isara
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For those who think that Trump is a Conservative:

Presidential Candidates Comparison (Cruz vs. Trump)

green = Good, RED = Bad, yellow = Mixed Ted Cruz Donald Trump
Budget, Spending & Debt green yellow
Civil Liberties green RED
Education green green
Energy & Environment green green
Foreign Policy & Defense green green
Free Market yellow RED
Health Care & Entitlements green RED
Immigration green green
Moral Issues green yellow
Second Amendment green yellow
Taxes, Economy & Trade green yellow

More at Conservative Review: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates

34 posted on 10/20/2015 1:57:52 PM PDT by Isara
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To: Isara

He needs to convince the president, our nation’s Lawbreaker-in-Chief.


35 posted on 10/20/2015 2:03:15 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: dp0622

Read the next few posts...


36 posted on 10/20/2015 2:18:13 PM PDT by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS! TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: Isara

[In addition to stripping certain federal funds from sanctuary jurisdictions, the legislation also incorporates critical elements of Kate’s Law, which Sen. Cruz introduced earlier this year, by imposing a five-year mandatory minimum sentence on any alien who illegally reenters the country after having been convicted of an aggravated felony or two prior illegal reentry offenses.]

One of any number of things that makes me so angry at Congress. Essentially, an illegal who comes back after committing a felony or comes back for the third time gets a five year sentence. Why doesn’t he get a mandatory sentence when he commits the felony or the second time he shows up. Like, how many chances does he get to illegally come? How many crimes of what kind can he commit before he gets a mandatory sentence?

Why can’t the Senate write straight forward bills? Why dozens of ammendments? And while on my rant, why reduce federal funding to cities not obeying the law? Why not just start putting people in jail? If a mayor or police chief can pick and choose which laws to enforce can I pick and choose which ones I can break and get a pass?


37 posted on 10/20/2015 2:34:51 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Isara
green = Good, RED = Bad, yellow = Mixed Ted Cruz Ben Carson Donald Trump
Budget, Spending & Debt green yellow yellow
Civil Liberties green green RED
Education green yellow green
Energy & Environment green yellow green
Foreign Policy & Defense green RED green
Free Market yellow yellow RED
Health Care & Entitlements green green RED
Immigration green RED green
Moral Issues green yellow yellow
Second Amendment green yellow yellow
Taxes, Economy & Trade green yellow yellow

Budget: Cruz has made massive financial deals, has put tens of thosuands of people to work, has run a billion dollar business, and protected a bottom line.  Next flight of fantasy...
Civil Liberties: Trump has said he'll round up and deport illegal immigrants, build a wall that is 60 feet tall along our border.  This results in his red marker on civil liberties.  No sale.
Free Market: The "FREE MARKET"...  Nothing in life is free.  The cost of this "FREE MARKET" has been tens of millions of U. S. jobs.  Trump wants to bring them back.  That warrants a red marker.  LOL
Health Care and Entitlements: Trump has proposed a private sector replacement of Obamacare.  He wants to reduce entitlements as part of getting the budget under control.  This red marker is simply proposterous.
Moral issues:  What moral issues?  Good grief.  Name one moral issue Trump has a problem with.
Second Amendment:  This is simply a fraud.  Trump has a paper on Second Amendment rights, and it's recognized as a good one.
Taxes, Economy, and Trade:  Trump's tax position is good.  His economic experience is second to very few U. S. Citizens.  His trade view are more solid than any other candidate's.

In Cruz's favor, his free market mark isn't deserved either.

Trump is the go to guy because of his economic experience.  He is solid on other issues as well, but second to illegal immigration, our national debt and related matters are vitally important and need to be addressed.  Trump is the only candidate with the experience necessary to do that.

Cruz supporters are pleased to drop this bomb on the forum.

It isn't an accurate display on Trump.  As such it's actually a smear on Cruz when his supporters tout it as a reason to support Cruz.  What they should be doing is pointing out the obvious flaws in this ranking.  And RANK is the proper word here....

38 posted on 10/20/2015 2:45:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

God loves you, DoughtyOne!


39 posted on 10/20/2015 2:57:13 PM PDT by Isara
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To: Isara

The children of God don’t spread information that is demonstrably false, to smear someone.

I know what my relationship with God is. I don’t need a follower of the great deceiver to educate me.


40 posted on 10/20/2015 3:34:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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