Posted on 10/19/2015 7:27:08 AM PDT by wagglebee
Re-emphasizing the importance of the family and improving our economy (not just gaming the numbers) might go a long way toward reducing the number of children born into poverty as well.
Observe that the “conservative” contingent is all for it.
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Whenever I post a thread on eugenics the “conservatives” who are all for it come out of the woodwork.
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Sorry, I don’t see it as “eugenics” (i.e., improving the race). I see it as trying to keep women who are on welfare (with their kids also on welfare) from adding more kids at the taxpayers’ expense. If they want more kids, they should get off the welfare rolls or the laws should be changed so that any additional kid conceived and added to a family after the family is on welfare DOES NOT ENTITLE THAT FAMILY (ALMOST ALWAYS A ‘SINGLE’ WOMAN) TO ADDITIONAL WELFARE FUNDS. That is NOT eugenics IMHO.
This wouldn’t be an issue if support for bastard babies was voluntary instead of compulsory.
Reverse the trend, and quit subsidizing 'baby mamadom' and reemphasize a stable family unit as the basis for society instead of promoting the long suffering Amazon raising her children (when that is actually being done by state minions and tax dollars).
Peel the rock off the lie and demand responsibility socially and otherwise.
I recall a time when a small fraction of black children were born out of wedlock, and even fewer whites.
Now, bastardy is becoming the socially accepted norm, and the promotion of promiscuity walks hand-in-glove with that change.
I am not talking about someone who has problems getting pregnant. I am talking about a doctor who knows what an IUD or birth control pill actually does to the baby and neglects to tell the woman that when she naturally conceives a baby that the baby dies somewhere between conception and implantation.
It is still a baby.
Years ago when they made the stronger birth control pills, this was in the 60s, women had boat loads of problems with them so they lightened the formulation. But those pills actually prevented a conceptus. The pills nowadays are lighter than the full hormone effect and do not prevent a conceptus.
So, babies are being conceived and are being killed before implantation.
Well said! I agree.
The churches and other community organizations and individuals used to provide the safety net for the needy. Maybe that wasn't perfect, but it was true charity at its finest.
Government appropriation of resources does not heartfelt charity make, and the Government is in no wise empowered Constitutionally to take those resources from the individual and redistribute them to other individuals for no other reason than one group has more than the other.
“A baby is conceived way before he/she enters the uterus.
I am not talking about someone who has problems getting pregnant. I am talking about a doctor who knows what an IUD or birth control pill actually does to the baby and neglects to tell the woman that when she naturally conceives a baby that the baby dies somewhere between conception and implantation.
It is still a baby....”
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OK, got it. So it would be better (and avoid your definition of having an abortion) for the state to instead require contraceptive IMPLANTS as a condition for fertile women to receive welfare.
The definition “implant” I found is: “A Contraceptive Implant is a soft capsule, about 1½ inch long, placed under the skin in a woman’s upper, inner arm. The capsule constantly gives off tiny amounts of an artificial progestin hormone. This prevents pregnancy by thickening the cervical mucus so that sperm can’t get into the uterus and by stopping ovulation. Different types of implants are used around the world. The one used in the United States is a single rod that slowly releases etonogestrel and lasts three years. It can be used for less than three years because it can be taken out at any time. It is 99.95% effective as birth control.”
So with an implant, contraception doesn’t occur and thus “abortion” is impossible.
So there’s no misunderstanding, MY personal preference would be to not increase the welfare dollar amount with additional children while on welfare. That places the responsibility on the woman...where it belongs IMHO.
The left complains that the GOP is in everyone's bedrooms, and yet it is the leftists who shove these anti-life programs on us and force us to pay for them.
I really don't care what type of device they use, it is coming out of my pocket.
OK, so what is YOUR solution to an increasing number of multi-generational welfare recipients?
Shall we tell them "Go ahead and have as many kids as you want, raise them to be dependent themselves, and when the whole system collapses... well, we'll figure something out then"?
Because you are ignorant of what eugenics is. Eugenics is about selective reproduction or preventing reproduction to promote desired traits.
I see it as trying to keep women who are on welfare (with their kids also on welfare) from adding more kids at the taxpayers’ expense.
No, you want to MANDATE STERILIZATION of certain groups.
If they want more kids, they should get off the welfare rolls or the laws should be changed so that any additional kid conceived and added to a family after the family is on welfare DOES NOT ENTITLE THAT FAMILY (ALMOST ALWAYS A ‘SINGLE’ WOMAN) TO ADDITIONAL WELFARE FUNDS.
I'm not defending welfare, I am opposing sterilization.
That is NOT eugenics IMHO.
Except it is.
My solution DOES NOT include sterilizing them.
We can end welfare through much easier ways than barbarity.
Shall we tell them "Go ahead and have as many kids as you want, raise them to be dependent themselves, and when the whole system collapses... well, we'll figure something out then"?
It's a lot better than YOUR idea of herding them into be sterilized.
What kind of country and government will we end up with if we accept this? I think that we know.
Amen!
Exactly right.
We are rapidly approaching that time.
Amen. Father, forgive them, for they know not what they ask.
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