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19 states push poor women to get an IUD immediately after childbirth - at taxpayer expense
LifeSiteNews ^ | 10/16/15 | Father Mark Hodges

Posted on 10/19/2015 7:27:08 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: NorthMountain
I agree with you. I would also approve of border patrol agents opening fire on illegals who throw rocks at them.

I would deport illegals to the southern tip of Mexico. For a next offense, drop them off at the southern tip of South America.

41 posted on 10/19/2015 9:19:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Excellent post!
42 posted on 10/19/2015 9:20:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Yeah, the men are the tough part. The problem is universal birth control in the water or food has impact on wildlife. A woman can only have one baby, under normal circumstances, in 9 months. You get a fecund male, knocking up anything that walks, he’s in the hundreds of kids.


43 posted on 10/19/2015 9:27:22 AM PDT by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: PapaBear3625
the southern tip of South America.

Truly a garden spot. Winter is its best season ...

44 posted on 10/19/2015 9:31:06 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: EternalVigilance; wagglebee

“they need to have it explained to them that their own rights are not secure if the supreme right of the most helpless and innocent among us are not secure.”

Oct. 2015.

Who here believes their rights are secure ?

EV nailes it.


45 posted on 10/19/2015 9:47:50 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker; EternalVigilance
Unfortunately, many think that utilitarian-based libertarianism is the same as conservatism.
46 posted on 10/19/2015 9:50:02 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“Unfortunately, many think that utilitarian-based libertarianism is the same as conservatism. “

Sadly, we have too many FReepers who bought into the libertarian lie.


47 posted on 10/19/2015 9:53:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: wagglebee

I cannot believe some of the responses to this thread from people that claim to be conservative. This is crazy. IUD’s are horrible! I see a huge lack of faith in threads like this. Very sad!


48 posted on 10/19/2015 10:46:03 AM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: samiam1972
I'm not surprised at all, this ALWAYS happens when I post one of these threads.
49 posted on 10/19/2015 10:48:11 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

When I was much younger, I had a friend who used to come to the same gym, and she had had an IUD implanted.
Several months later, we noticed that she looked pregnant, but it wasn’t a pregnancy, it was a fibroid tumor
caused by the irritation of the IUD.

She had surgery that ended up in her having a hysterectomy, as the doctors could not separate the tumor from
her uterus. That was a tragedy for her because of course, she was sterile. We remained friends until I got
married and hubby and I moved away.

I would not recommend that any young woman get an IUD, because damage from the device is permanent.


50 posted on 10/19/2015 10:49:17 AM PDT by TheOldLady (I miss the Gipper. Wish we still had someone like him.)
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To: null and void

Very good point. I will add that statement to my Argument when discussing Abortion with any Pro Choice Types. Thanks.


51 posted on 10/19/2015 10:51:52 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: TheOldLady
Well, you can see that a great many "conservatives" are fully in favor of sterilizing certain groups of women.
52 posted on 10/19/2015 10:52:12 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Copper is poisonous, if I remember correctly...


53 posted on 10/19/2015 11:09:53 AM PDT by Bikkuri ((...))
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To: wagglebee

Indeed. That is truly a shame.

A lot of “conservatives” act like libs when they want to
decide how someone should live his or her life, as if it
is their business in any way, shape, manner, or form.


54 posted on 10/19/2015 11:13:05 AM PDT by TheOldLady (I miss the Gipper. Wish we still had someone like him.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Exactly right.


55 posted on 10/19/2015 11:13:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Sadly, yes.


56 posted on 10/19/2015 11:14:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TheOldLady; wagglebee
A lot of “conservatives” act like libs when they want to decide how someone should live his or her life, as if it is their business in any way, shape, manner, or form.

When money is grabbed out of my pocket to subsidize somebody else's choice, then I think I thus get a right to say something about their choices.

Eliminate welfare, eliminate me having to pay for your babies, and I will shut up about what, if anything, to do.

57 posted on 10/19/2015 11:22:29 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Slyfox

“IUDs make the lining of the uterus uninhabitable to the newly concepted baby, so women are having abortions and do not know it.”
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OK, I see. That doesn’t meet my definition of abortion. Some women, unfortunately, naturally have problems where fertilized eggs are unable to attach to their uterus. I wouldn’t consider them to be having an abortion every time that happened to them ...they just couldn’t get pregnant. That’s all IMHO, of course.


58 posted on 10/19/2015 11:25:14 AM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose! Does TG have to be an ass every day?)
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To: PapaBear3625

Although I do remember hearing about babies being born holding the IUD in one of their hands.


59 posted on 10/19/2015 11:25:41 AM PDT by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’m 69. I don’t have babies, I have never been on the dole, I worked my butt off for
every penny I ever made, and you have never paid for my babies.

Hint: Don’t personalize your outrage by targeting someone who never did a thing to you.


60 posted on 10/19/2015 11:27:19 AM PDT by TheOldLady (I miss the Gipper. Wish we still had someone like him.)
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