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US Analysts Knew Afghan Site Was Hospital
AP ^ | Oct. 15, 2015

Posted on 10/16/2015 1:07:52 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Days before the Oct. 3 U.S. air attack on a hospital in Afghanistan, American special operations analysts were gathering intelligence on the facility — which they knew was a protected medical site — because they believed it was being used by a Pakistani operative to coordinate Taliban activity, The Associated Press has learned.

It's unclear whether commanders who unleashed the AC-130 gunship on the hospital — killing at least 22 patients and hospital staff — were aware that the site was a hospital or knew about the allegations of possible enemy activity. The Pentagon initially said the attack was to protect U.S. troops engaged in a firefight and has since said it was a mistake.

The special operations analysts had assembled a dossier that included maps with the hospital circled, along with indications that intelligence agencies were tracking the location of the Pakistani operative and activity reports based on overhead surveillance

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: afghanistan

1 posted on 10/16/2015 1:07:52 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

So what?

If rounds are coming from the hospital, then the doctors and nurses in there, who can hear the firing, need to get out.

Counter-battery fire does not look at the target, it just goes to where the rounds came from.


2 posted on 10/16/2015 1:10:05 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy

All of the patients were Taliban wounded and the Afghan Army called in the coordinates to hit it.


3 posted on 10/16/2015 1:24:34 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BerryDingle
All of the patients were Taliban wounded and the Afghan Army called in the coordinates to hit it.

So are you saying it was a twofer one strike?

I did three tours in AF. I know exactly who was in those clinics and I know exactly what they were doing. The same damn thing the Palestinians do in Gaza and the Iraqis did in Baghdad.
4 posted on 10/16/2015 1:37:15 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy

It’s good to have your input, having been there. Will this incident make it even more difficult to deal with the Afghani population?


5 posted on 10/16/2015 2:21:21 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

The Taliban is given “plausible deniability”. The cover of being under the Doctors Without Borders was to insure that international blame would be shifted to the US “occupiers”.


6 posted on 10/16/2015 2:32:05 AM PDT by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: nickcarraway
Doctors without Borders has acknowledged that it treated wounded Taliban fighters at the Kunduz hospital, but it insists no weapons were allowed in. Afghans who worked at the hospital have told the AP that no one was firing from within.

Given what Taliban and other Muslim Jihadists throughout the Mideast have done to their "volunteers" this was a very unwise decision on their part.

7 posted on 10/16/2015 2:33:12 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: grania

The Afghani population will agree with whoever is standing there with the weapons or the money. Our absence allows the Taliban to offer them and force them to do anything the Taliban wants. When we were controlling entrances on the Pakistan and Iranian borders, we had a much better handle on what happened within AF. Our minimal presence is allowing total access to the populace by the Taliban. Who knows what is going on outside of our direct view.


8 posted on 10/16/2015 2:45:32 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: nickcarraway

Other than an assertion that analysts knew the site was a hospital, there is absolutely no other substantiation. No quotes stating that it was a hospital, anonymous or otherwise.

My understanding is that it was not clearly marked out as a hospital with distinctive Red Crescent or Red Cross painted on its roof. Even one of the ground combatants, who described the firefight as the worst in his life, didn’t identify the place as a hospital.


9 posted on 10/16/2015 3:21:53 AM PDT by plangent
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To: nickcarraway

Another Obummer effort to demoralize our warriors. If this was a C-130 gunship our men darn well knew the threat target. This administration’s jumping in to take the side of the enemy versus our fighters is so disheartening I just want to scream.


10 posted on 10/16/2015 3:36:31 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: nickcarraway

It’s probably a silly thing to make mention of, but can you imagine if this took place under Bush instead of the rich boy from Honolulu? There would be wall to wall coverage from the media and late night comedians demanding Bush to be drawn and quartered publicly for this incident.


11 posted on 10/16/2015 3:45:51 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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To: nickcarraway

Fighting our enemies (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan) by getting our guys pointlessly killed in Afghanistan and Iraq was military malpractice on an historical scale.


12 posted on 10/16/2015 3:50:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Jim Noble

Actually Saudi Arabia is our and Israel’s ally. They are just mad at us because we are being to friendly with Iran and aren’t stopping ISIS enough for them.


13 posted on 10/16/2015 4:05:50 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: OttawaFreeper

yep


14 posted on 10/16/2015 4:17:31 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Going to Planned Parenthood for medical care; would be like going to Auschwitz for medical care.)
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To: nickcarraway
Actually Saudi Arabia is our and Israel’s ally

SURE they are...

15 posted on 10/16/2015 4:41:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: plangent

They knew the GPS coordinates. The cockpit crew questioned the legality of their orders.


16 posted on 10/17/2015 7:25:17 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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