Well, this bloke certainly doesn't strike me as the type who would throw a shrimp on the barbie, or know how to rebuild the carby on an old Holden Kinga.
Posted on 10/08/2015 7:05:13 PM PDT by naturalman1975
An Islamic religious leader has called for the extremists behind the Parramatta shooting to 'stop messing with Australia' in remarks where he said there was not yet enough evidence to describe it as an act of terror.
Grand Mufti of Australia Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohamed joined community leaders on Friday morning in coming together to 'refuse and reject' all terrorist acts and extend their condolences to the families of the dead.
'We say to those who supported that, stop messing with Australia and its society,' Dr Mohamed said via an interpreter, when he was asked what his message was for extremists in the Australian community.
Pressed over whether he believed the shooting could be considered a terrorist act, Dr Mohamed - an acclaimed Egyptian-born author and thinker who moved to Australia from Abu Dhabi in 1997 - said he could not say as there is not yet enough information.
'There's not enough information so far about that. Without enough information and given we are not an investigating body, I cannot comment on that.'
'Generally speaking and utterly, we refuse and reject any form of terrorist activities, whether this, if it's proven to be a terrorist act, or any other one.'
In the aftermath of the attack, NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione described 15-year-old gunman Farhad Jabar's attack as 'politically motivated and therefore linked to terrorism'.
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And if he speaks decent English as he claims, he'd be much better speaking to Australians using it. The idea that he is worried about being misinterpreted is a nonsense. If he was talking about complex theological issues, maybe - but this is quite simple.
Our islamic religious leader refuses to call any islamic act of aggression a terrorist attack, either.
Even when obama is given the pictures and names, he just will not, nor will he allow his administration to describe them as anything more than "disgruntled worker/workplace violence".
Fine.. call THEM terrorists and deport or defenestrate as necessary..
“Our islamic religious leader refuses to call any islamic act of aggression a terrorist attack, either.”
So is Obama also our “Grand Mufti?” If not, do we have a Grand Mufti here in America?
The kid was 15-years-old and the shooting occurred 10/02/2015. With Australia’s vaunted “tough gun laws”, how did this happen?
In. Complete. Denial.
Obama ain't "grand" nothing.
He's a worthless piece of crap that would rather have the perverted, immoral values of the camel-humpers replace our Judaeo-Christian values.
I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I'm not so damned blind that I can't see the agenda that obama is putting forth...so, if we need a "Grand Mufti", then I guess he fit's the bill.
And if we have an islamic religious leader, then that's him. From Wikipedia, re: Grand Mufti: The collected opinions of the Grand Mufti serve as a valuable source of information on the practical application of Islamic law as opposed to its abstract formulation.
But I don't even recognize him as my President, much less as a "religious" leader or "Mufti" of any kind.
Don’t take at all seriously what you are being told in America about Australian gun laws. You are being lied to. Guns are not banned in Australia. A million law abiding citizens legally own millions of guns. We do have some dumb laws and restrictions but for some reason some American politicians are trying to hold up Australia as some sort of ‘gun free utopia’ of their own imagination.
A 15 year old kid shouldn’t have been able to get a gun which shows that no laws are ever going to guarantee criminals shouldn’t get a gun - but, seriously, this attempt to use Australia as some sort of model for America is just dishonest on the part of those playing that game on all sorts of levels.
I share your views, I was just wondering if we’d gone as far as Australia in letting the Muzzies in? I flew from Sydney to Singapore a few years ago and I had a muzzie for a seatmate. He was crowing about what a “land of opportunity” Australia was for mooslims.
“We do have some dumb laws and restrictions but for some reason some American politicians are trying to hold up Australia as some sort of ‘gun free utopia’ of their own imagination.”
Well, I seem to remember watching the confiscated weapons being sawed up at the time. So if guns weren’t confiscated, what were they doing? I’ll bet you an Aussie dollar you can’t have a handgun in any Australian city legally!
Well now, it doesn’t really matter if the guilty refuse to admit complicity.
What matters is that the Aussie PM has the courage to call it terror.
Thanks for the update from the trenches. That's all we seem to read is that we should have gun laws "just like Australia". They use that one a lot when proposing laws that allow the police to inspect a gun owner's home to insure "safe gun storage".
It was a buy back - most of the guns involved were not confiscated but were voluntarily surrendered in exchange for hard cash. People could have chosen to keep the guns - at least in most cases. A minority of the weapons involved were required to be surrendered - generally because the person involved had a criminal record and so was unable to get the licence they needed, even though they might have had such a licence under the previous laws.
There were some confiscations but it was only a small proportion of the weapons involved - and even counting voluntary surrenders, only about one sixth of the known guns in Australia were handed in. Most people kept their firearms.
I’ll bet you an Aussie dollar you can’t have a handgun in any Australian city legally!
Take a look at the website of my local gunshop and the handguns they sell. I can assure you they are not openly advertising the fact they are selling illegal weapons. These guns can be purchased - although you do need a specific handgun licence. I have one myself.
As much as it pains me...I must say: We have surpassed them.
We have havens within our borders that are as much, if not more than, those within any islamic state in the Mid-east.
Dearborn, Michigan, Minneapolis, Minnesota, both come to mind as having more than 50% of the entire population practicing the moon-god cult of islamic immorality.
There are quite a few others.
We have several wherein they have become so bold as to petition the courts for some civil litigation to be conducted under Sharia Law.
When will we learn?
Apparently, never.
I fear for my country.
That one is true enough. Like I say, we do have some dumb gun laws, and all firearms must be locked away when not in active use, and the police can check. I've never actually been checked myself, but they could knock tomorrow and ask to see my gun safe.
It's just when people talk about guns being banned in Australia, or even that hard to get, they really are misrepresenting things. We have plenty of problems with overly restrictive gun laws, but the US media and some US politicians really seem to want to make it out to be much worse than it is.
Nice place! Are there any restrictions on the kinds of guns you can buy?
Here in California, where they try to restrict gun purchases by type, we are able to buy an ever decreasing number of semi-automatic handguns because the CADOJ gets to “test” each specific model to see if it's “safe.” The handgun mfrs are refusing to add “features” that are unique to California (loaded chamber indicator, mag disconnect) so my wife and I stocked up a couple of years ago. But here, you need only pass a Federal BG check and wait ten days. The ten-day waiting period has been declared un-constitutional by a Federal Judge, but the State is dragging its feet on implementing the court's mandate.
BTW, I love Australia! Used to go there on business (Sydney and Canberra), and my dad served in the US Navy in Melbourne for four years during WWII.
Yes - as I say, we have our share of dumb laws. It's just not as bad as some people try to claim when they start talking about mass confiscations and bans.
It's all down to licencing. Almost any adult can get what is called an A/B licence (unless they have a recent or serious criminal record), but that really limits you to non-semi-automatic longarms - bolt action rifles and shotguns. If you want to own semi-automatics or handguns you need more specialised licences which are harder to get (though still not that hard). Anything seen as 'military style' requires an even higher level licence and that is genuinely hard for an ordinary person to get.
A basic handgun licence limits you to .38 or 9mm or smaller, no more than a ten round magazine, and no short barelled weapons. And even if you have a licence, you need to specifically apply for a permit to buy any new weapon and while that permit will almost certainly be issued, it can take up to 28 days to get it issued for no good reason at all.
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