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Ben Carson Is Right — Charge Attackers, Don’t Shelter in Place
National Review ^ | 10/08/2015 | David French

Posted on 10/08/2015 7:30:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Common sense apparently does strange things to some progressive minds. Yesterday morning, speaking on Fox and Friends, Ben Carson said of a mass-shooting situation, “I would not just stand there and let him shoot me. I would say, ‘Hey guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me, but he can’t get us all.’”

The New York Times declared that his statement was “drawing widespread rebuke from his critics and reviving questions about his candidacy.” ABC News asked him to “clarify” his statement, leading to this rather amusing exchange:

ABC: Dr. Carson can you clarify your statements on the Oregon shooting?

Carson: What needs clarification?

ABC: I guess there’s an implication that you’re saying that the students didn’t do enough to save themselves.

Carson: No, I said nothing about them. I said what I would do.

ABC: And can you say what you would do?

Carson: I would ask everybody to attack the gunman because he can only shoot one of us at a time. That way we don’t all wind up dead.

He then laughed and walked away. Later, on Megyn Kelly’s show, he said that he wasn’t laughing at the shooting but rather the “silliness” of the people asking the question. He said that he wanted to “plant the seed in people’s minds so that if this happens again they don’t all get killed.”

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There was a time when the guidance for passengers in airplane hijackings could be summed up in one word: Cooperate. And on September 11, 2001, hijackers used that guidance to guarantee their control of three airplanes — the planes that later flew straight into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon. But on one aircraft, the passengers learned that cooperation meant certain death, and they unilaterally changed the protocols. As a result, it’s now virtually unthinkable that American passengers will simply stand by and allow a hijacker to seize an airliner’s controls.

To hail the passengers of Flight 93 is not to condemn the passengers of Flight 11, Flight 175, and Flight 77. In a terrifying situation, they were doing what they were taught to do.

The current guidance for victims in mass-shooting situations is just as passive as the original guidance for hijacking victims. “Shelter in place,” they’re told. In other words, hide and wait for rescue. Carson is urging a change in the paradigm, to immediate group resistance.

The key word here is “group.” The sad stories of mass shootings are replete with tales of individual heroism, of the one man who charged the attacker only to be shot down. In Oregon, Chris Mintz resisted and was shot multiple times. At Fort Hood, Captain John Gaffney reportedly died charging Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan. But where one man fails, two or three can succeed — just ask Spencer Stone, Alek Skarlatos, and Anthony Sadler, the three American men who foiled an August terrorist attack on a French train.

Should the defining characteristic of Americans under fire — whether from terrorists or from depraved gunmen — be their eagerness to shelter or their courage to resist? And should a presidential candidate prioritize “sensitivity” over all other virtues? Carson is urging Americans to change their thinking, to take responsibility for their own defense. In a previous era, this would be called leadership. Now, all too many people just call it mean.

As I’ve said before, none of us can truly know how we’ll respond to a crisis until we face that ultimate test, but aspiration is the first step to action, and we can and should urge our fellow Americans to fight — together, immediately, and viciously — when confronted by a mortal threat. “Shelter in place” is supposed to mean “wait for help.” All too often it means “wait to die.” Those are not American words. They are not in keeping with American culture. On Flight 93, the battle cry was “Let’s roll.” On a train in Belgium, it was “Let’s go.” Those are the right words — the American words — for defeating evil.

—David French is an attorney and a staff writer at National Review.


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1 posted on 10/08/2015 7:30:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Elections
Hillary Compares The NRA To ‘The Iranians And Communists’ [VIDEO]
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Chuck Ross
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1:27 AM 10/08/2015

Hillary Clinton took aim at the National Rifle Association in Iowa on Wednesday, hitting the group for what she claims is its “absolutist” stance on gun rights and comparing it to “the Iranians and Communists.”

Clinton drew the connection to the gun rights group and murderous tyrants after a woman in the audience at a town hall meeting in Mount Vernon noted that President Obama seemed defeated during his remarks on gun control following last week’s mass shooting at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/08/hillary-compares-the-nra-to-the-iranians-and-communists-video/


2 posted on 10/08/2015 7:33:44 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: SeekAndFind

Flying chairs stop bullets and hurt the shooters who then can’t aim.


3 posted on 10/08/2015 7:34:33 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (In the words of Oliver Hardy; "Another fine mess you have gotten us into.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Carson’s right.

The killer has less time to take perfect aim if he’s being rushed. Doctors can do a lot with a wounded person... not so much with someone shot in the head at point blank.

Also if someone says ‘get in the car or I’ll shoot you’ - you have a much better chance living if you run - even if the person shoots you. Anyone who goes to the secondary crime site will likely be tortured before being murdered.


4 posted on 10/08/2015 7:37:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: KeyLargo

She is as cynical as any politburo member, besides being a doubleplusgood duckspeaker with a voice like fingernails on slate.


5 posted on 10/08/2015 7:37:39 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t charge. I would maintain a firm stance with my feet planted even with my shoulders, both arms extended forward in a triangle, both hands clutching some steel and polymer.


6 posted on 10/08/2015 7:37:39 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Flying chairs stop bullets and hurt the shooters who then can’t aim.


That’s right. Use any and all available tools.

Gov. John Kasich was just on Fox. He said he trusts the First Responders to handle situations. Idiot.


7 posted on 10/08/2015 7:37:51 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: SeekAndFind
On the other hand, if the attacker is not in the room, absent enough awareness of the tactical situation to plan an escape by a route avoiding the attacker's line of sight, shelter-in-place while planning an ambush should the attacker enter your room is probably a reasonable plan.
8 posted on 10/08/2015 7:38:12 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Westbrook

Wrong thread. :/


9 posted on 10/08/2015 7:38:19 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: SeekAndFind
Do not go gentle into that good night!
10 posted on 10/08/2015 7:38:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Pass the popcorn, set back/watch the Russians destroy Isis in Syria and Iran doing the same in Iraq)
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To: laplata

> Gov. John Kasich was just on Fox. He said he trusts the
> First Responders to handle situations.

Yes, of course.

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.


11 posted on 10/08/2015 7:39:14 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course it takes about the most mild-mannered guy currently in public life to make this point.


12 posted on 10/08/2015 7:39:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

You know, I wondered the same thing. Why did they all stand there waiting for their turn? Distract him/throw something. Charge at him.


13 posted on 10/08/2015 7:39:45 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: Westbrook

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.


I’ve told numerous libs that I would give them

“THIS IS A GUN FREE HOME” signs for the front and back of

their homes but they always turn me down.


14 posted on 10/08/2015 7:41:26 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Right after the shooting stops, and the all clear is given


15 posted on 10/08/2015 7:41:27 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The key word here is “group.” The sad stories of mass shootings are replete with tales of individual heroism, of the one man who charged the attacker only to be shot down. In Oregon, Chris Mintz resisted and was shot multiple times.

At Fort Hood, Captain John Gaffney reportedly died charging Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan.

But where one man fails, two or three can succeed — just ask Spencer Stone, Alek Skarlatos, and Anthony Sadler, the three American men who foiled an August terrorist attack on a French train.”


16 posted on 10/08/2015 7:41:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Pass the popcorn, set back/watch the Russians destroy Isis in Syria and Iran doing the same in Iraq)
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To: SeekAndFind

Carson thinks he can turn himself into Superman??...faster than a speeding bullet....the result would be everyone killed in less than two seconds.


17 posted on 10/08/2015 7:42:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: going hot

Yep, the Fire Dept. can hose out the blood.


18 posted on 10/08/2015 7:43:05 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If we teach “Let’s Roll” as a universal command for all similar situations and it’s successful in any , it might deter more idiots from getting ideas


19 posted on 10/08/2015 7:43:38 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: SeekAndFind
He said that he wanted to “plant the seed in people’s minds so that if this happens again they don’t all get killed.”

It's amazing how that same thought must have passed through the minds of the three American guys on that French train...or the "Let's roll" folks on the 9/11 plane over Pennsylvania. And what was the Idiot Media response to those two incidents?

20 posted on 10/08/2015 7:44:29 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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