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Letter to a Conservative Censor
Townhall.com ^ | October 7, 2015 | Mike Adams

Posted on 10/07/2015 7:36:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

Dear (name withheld):

Thank you for writing to me with your concerns over the status of PRIDE at (name withheld) college. Given your status as a newly appointed member of the Board of Trustees and self-described “occasional reader” of my column I am frankly stunned by the content of your letter. Nonetheless, I intend to respond at some length. My reply will not be what you had anticipated.

As you are probably aware, PRIDE stands for People Recognizing Individual Differences Exist. It is one of many student organizations around the country that holds itself out as an organization seeking to promote tolerance toward the LGBT community. We probably both agree that these organizations usually fail to promote tolerance. That is because such groups are generally made up of ideologically rigid leftists with a proclivity toward censorship of dissenting viewpoints.

My profound distaste for censorship is one of the reasons I am so disappointed that you have written seeking my assistance in having the group defunded and derecognized. What you have asked me to help you do is not just immoral. It is also illegal. Let me explain.

You note in your correspondence that PRIDE is currently funded by what you refer to as “tax dollars.” These are actually mandatory student activity fees paid by students attending the college. Because the school is publicly funded that means it must adhere to a case that went before the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000, known as Wisconsin v. Southworth. In that case, the attorney arguing the position of the appellee was my friend and former attorney Jordan Lorence.

Jordan did not win the specific ruling he sought before the High Court. He had hoped the majority would declare student activity fees to be unconstitutional per se - because they compelled students to fund speech with which they disagreed. The Court rejected that argument saying such fees furthered a government interest in promoting discussion on a broad range of social and political topics.

However, Jordan did manage to have a portion of the University of Wisconsin’s student fee policy struck down. The specific portion was one that banned political groups from receiving funding derived from those mandatory student activity fees. The Supreme Court ruled that the fees had to be redistributed in a viewpoint neutral basis in order to pass constitutional muster. That means groups cannot be denied because they are “political” or “religious” (also see Rosenberger v. Rector, 1995) or because they adhere to a particular viewpoint.

Having read this brief description of the Southworth case, you should now be able to recognize the illegality of what you are seeking to do. As an official at a public college you simply cannot have a group defunded because you disagree with their mission. The students in PRIDE pay mandatory student activity fees and they deserve to be recognized as an official group so they may reclaim their fees just like anyone else at the public institution. Therefore, your decision to contact me with such a grossly improper request compels me to respond in the following manner:

I will be running a copy of this letter in my weekly column with your name and your institution’s name redacted. The reason for this first course of action is to warn other potential censors to avoid contacting me in the future. This is the second time such a thing has happened to me in the last decade and, quite frankly, that is two times too many.

I will be contacting PRIDE to offer to help them secure competent legal counsel. Unless I hear back from you immediately with some assurance that you intend to abandon your interest in interfering with the First Amendment activities of PRIDE I will be contacting them via email. If you persist, I sincerely hope they sue you and that this letter is used to help strip you of qualified immunity.

I will be publishing your name and contact information if action is taken against PRIDE. If there is any direct action taken against PRIDE I will republish this letter with one slight modification: It will include your name and personal email address. I really don’t care whether you consider this to be an invasion of privacy. Public officials have no right to conspire to violate the rights of private citizens under conditions of anonymity and secrecy. Furthermore, when you attempt to build political coalitions you always assume the risk that people will reject your political goals and join the opposition.

Before I sign off, let me briefly address why you I believe you are so confused. In the past, I have railed against groups such as PRIDE because they have tried to lay claim to rights they do not have in order to violate the actual rights of others. For example, the PRIDE group here on my campus actually threatened to prosecute another student group for inviting them to a debate on the abortion issue. By claiming a) the right to be unoffended, and b) that invitations from groups with opposing viewpoints were offensive, they sought to abridge the free speech rights of others. Surely, you must understand that our efforts to stop PRIDE from claiming rights they don’t have does not translate into depriving them of rights they do have.

The course of action you have chosen is also dangerous to conservatives. We were once considered to be the principal opponents of free speech on college campuses. However, in the last twenty years, it has become evident that most censorship now comes from the campus left. An awareness of that shift has been beneficial to our credibility as a movement and it has been damaging to liberalism.

In short, your attack on the rights of the PRIDE organization is more than just unprincipled. It is also very bad politics.


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1 posted on 10/07/2015 7:36:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: alarm rider; alrea; Apple Pan Dowdy; BatGuano; Battle Axe; bayouranger; bboop; BenKenobi; ...

Mike Adams Column


Please Freepmail me if you want to be added, or removed from the ping list

2 posted on 10/07/2015 7:37:53 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

PRIDE.

One of the seven deadlies, if I recall correctly.


3 posted on 10/07/2015 7:45:41 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Kaslin

Mike Adams is the best.


4 posted on 10/07/2015 7:47:54 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Kaslin

Even the ACLU used to agree that the First Amendment exists precisely to protect offensive speech. There is no more offensive group than PRIDE, so they should be proud to be the role model for just how far the First Amendment extends. Mike Adams is (as usual) correct.


5 posted on 10/07/2015 7:53:42 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Tongue in cheek?

Otherwise Mike has gone a bit off the deep end. When Jesus said love your enemy He didn’t mean kiss their arse.


6 posted on 10/07/2015 8:07:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin

Makes one wonder how tall the ladder is that Mike Adams climbs to mount his high horse.


7 posted on 10/07/2015 8:10:14 AM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: Tudorfly

Adams has been pretty good on principle in the past, and I could well understand his declining to take the particular tack that he was asked to take. I can’t understand his getting so nasty about it. Unless there is a sarcasm tag at the end we are missing.


8 posted on 10/07/2015 8:14:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin

It is not immoral or illegal. It is just currently unpopular or at least no one is brave enough to take it on.

No one would favor, say, a swingers club or a bandage club or other things similar. Colleges are for learning and building good citizens. We would not allow a terrorist club or a rape club. Not that many years ago homosexuality was both illegal and a recognized mental disorder. The idea that we MUST allow filth on campus in the name of free speech is just not true. But there you have it. Welcome to the bizarro world where good is evil and evil is good and filth is free but morality and religion are shunned....and the only knowable “truths” are manufactured from the emotional whims of liberals.

Mike Adams is sometimes very good and sometime grating and pompous.


9 posted on 10/07/2015 8:17:14 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Pollster1

It protects offensive speech to a point. Until not so many years ago, obscene speech was not included in those protections. Homosexuality would have been in the category of bad for the public interest and overall obscene. The group is way way beyond political. It is about marketing evil to college kids.


10 posted on 10/07/2015 8:21:16 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bboop

“Mike Adams is the best.” (friend the campus homo movement ever had.)

For all his sophistry, he is merely protecting the movement of homo stuff on campus. His logic gives them a safe protected place to destroy out children and our very society. He even helpfully says he will report this person to the government if they try to advocate against a “pride” movement.

Sick sick sick.


11 posted on 10/07/2015 8:21:20 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly. He is as human as the next guy, I suppose. But I find it very distasteful. I have seen this snottiness in him before. He is very impressed with himself.


12 posted on 10/07/2015 8:23:06 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Kaslin

And he never even demonstrated it was illegal. This pompous article was a waste of bandwidth.


13 posted on 10/07/2015 8:25:06 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Mike Adams is sometimes very good and sometime grating and pompous.

You must not be aware that Professor Adams writes sometime satire, otherwise you would not think he was grating and pompous.

14 posted on 10/07/2015 8:26:51 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

I am aware of it. I stand by my statement. I used to be a fan. I have his book. My opinion developed over time.

Please overlook my early posting typos. I am tired and just missed them.


15 posted on 10/07/2015 8:30:18 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: left that other site
One of the seven deadlies, if I recall correctly.

Your recollection is correct. I recollect them as I learned them, as "PEWLAGS":

Pride
Envy
Wrath
Lust
Avarice
Gluttony
Sloth

16 posted on 10/07/2015 9:29:34 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Kaslin

Student activity fees should be abolished.


17 posted on 10/07/2015 9:36:50 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kaslin

When I was chairman of my college YAF chapter, we tried to get the activity fees abolished. The student government cleverly tried to give us fee money, figuring that would shut us up. I very publicly turned it down. They were ANGRY!


18 posted on 10/07/2015 9:38:12 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kaslin
PRIDE stands for People Recognizing Individual Differences Exist.

roups are generally made up of ideologically rigid leftists with a proclivity toward censorship of dissenting viewpoints.

the PRIDE group here on my campus actually threatened to prosecute another student group for inviting them to a debate on the abortion issue. By claiming a) the right to be unoffended, and b) that invitations from groups with opposing viewpoints were offensive, they sought to abridge the free speech rights of others.

Way to recognize individual differences!

19 posted on 10/07/2015 9:40:42 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: DesertRhino

I’d understand how the conflict of ethics here could lead Adams to decline to take the specific course of action proposed by the letter writer, because he does not want to invest himself in what he thinks is a losing stratagem. Fair enough.

But to threaten to be a back stabbing asshole (pardon my French) is beyond the pale. This is looking for brownie points from just what? His ego? The world?


20 posted on 10/07/2015 10:18:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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