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Volkswagen Accused Of Hacking 482,000 Diesels To Fake U.S. Emissions Tests
Yahoo Autos ^ | September 18, 2015 | Justin Hyde

Posted on 09/18/2015 11:14:17 AM PDT by Reaganez

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and California officials say some 482,000 Volkswagen and Audi diesels were engineered to falsify their emissions for federal tests—a violation that opens the German automaker to a theoretical fine totaling $18 billion.

The EPA and California Air Resources Board say the affected models had software in its computer engine controls that could sense exactly when it was being tested for emissions quality. At all other times, it would run the diesels in a different mode with illegal levels of pollution; for example, spewing up to 40 times more nitrogen oxide, a key component of smog, than allowed.

While other automakers have been accused of violating the Clean Air Act, this is the first time one has been found to have designed software specifically to circumvent the rules. The notice issued by the EPA and CARB today was the first step in a process that will likely lead to a recall of the affected models with 2-liter turbodiesel engines by VW; the agencies told owners that the vehicles are still safe to drive.

The affected cars include VW Jettas, Beetles, Golfs and Audi A3s with diesel engines from the 2009 to 2015 model years, along with diesel VW Passats from 2014-2015.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Germany; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: a3s; audi; automobiles; beetle; california; carb; cleanairact; detroit; diesel; epa; fiatchrysler; ford; generalmotors; germany; golf; jetta; martinwinterkorn; michigan; passat; turbodiesel; volkswagen
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Volkswagen was the only automaker to meet emissions regulations on their diesels without use of a urea injection device. I knew they were full of ?KJI.
1 posted on 09/18/2015 11:14:17 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Red Badger

Knock List ping.


2 posted on 09/18/2015 11:16:25 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Reaganez

Good for them. They run great and get wonderful mileage .


3 posted on 09/18/2015 11:18:42 AM PDT by Kozak (Walker / Cruz 2016 or Cruz/ Walker 2016 Either one is good...)
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To: Reaganez

Too big to fine?

I bet a plea bargain is in the works.

They should be sentenced to producing only electric cars for the next 20 years.

By the way, when will we see the first all-electric semi-truck?


4 posted on 09/18/2015 11:19:58 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and California officials say some 482,000 Volkswagen and Audi diesels were engineered to falsify their emissions for federal tests -- a violation that opens the German automaker to a theoretical fine totaling $18 billion.
I think that's $ 373,443.98 per vehicle.
5 posted on 09/18/2015 11:21:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Reaganez

I want one.


6 posted on 09/18/2015 11:21:27 AM PDT by glasseye
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To: Reaganez

AI is making progress.....


7 posted on 09/18/2015 11:22:23 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current devices...one uses Brit spel now.)
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... the affected models had software in its computer engine controls that could sense exactly when it was being tested for emissions quality

So the regulations specify the emissions limits under defined operating conditions, and the maker designs an engine around the government's specifications. Now the government changes the rules. Typical government.

And OMG, see how much harm has been caused! By the emissions, I mean.

8 posted on 09/18/2015 11:22:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: glasseye

Me too. A TDI has been on my toy list for a long time. Now that I’ve got the EPA’s list of good ones, I can narrow the field.

You have to hand it to German engineering. Cat, Cummins, IH, etc. got powned by the EPA years ago.


9 posted on 09/18/2015 11:29:33 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Reaganez

Illegal levels of pollution in those European model diesels translates to more pollution per gallon burned but less pollution per mile driven. The distinction is political rather than useful. The government does not want more efficient cars. It wants NO personal cars.


10 posted on 09/18/2015 11:29:59 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Cboldt

That is not what they did.

They detected emissions testing and reduced nitrous oxide emissions only during testing.

Breath in those particulates for a few years and ask how much harm it is doing.


11 posted on 09/18/2015 11:30:11 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: arthurus

So where are you buying your tin hats?


12 posted on 09/18/2015 11:32:49 AM PDT by Reaganez
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They detected emissions testing and reduced nitrous oxide emissions only during testing.

Breath in those particulates for a few years and ask how much harm it is doing.

Taken together, that pair of statements looks rather odd if you know that Nitrous Oxide is not particulate.

13 posted on 09/18/2015 11:34:50 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

The news source for this tidbit is not called “Yahoo” for nothing.

You want REALLY clean-burning Diesel engines? Fuel them with Compressed Natural Gas.

In fact, CNG should be much more widely available than it now is, for both spark-ignition and compression-ignition vehicle engines.

That aside, urea-injection exhaust systems do a very good job of cleaning up NOx emission, they are widely used on light-duty pickup trucks and on Mercedes Diesels sold in this country.

I still believe that a lot may be done using either a fully recirculating steam power unit with a condensation unit, based on the Abner Doble designs of the 1920’s.


14 posted on 09/18/2015 11:37:46 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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-- They detected emissions testing and reduced nitrous oxide emissions only during testing. --

And how was this done?

-- Breath in those particulates for a few years and ask how much harm it is doing. --

NOx particulates? LOL. at any rate, particulate emissions are lower now than they were in years gone by. I'm not going to assert they are for sure harmless, but dosage matters. Your body will die if it does not get arsenic, and it will die if it gets too much arsenic. I know arsenic and particulates are not the same thing, but dosage matters.

15 posted on 09/18/2015 11:38:46 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: meatloaf

I’ve driven a Jetta TDI for 5 years now. Love it.


16 posted on 09/18/2015 11:47:05 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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To: Kozak

I like my Passat TDI even more. 48 mpg highway and pissing off a liberal at the same time.


17 posted on 09/18/2015 11:48:47 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Kozak

Yes good for them !!!!


18 posted on 09/18/2015 11:52:36 AM PDT by angcat
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To: SaxxonWoods
when will we see the first all-electric semi-truck?

Soon as they can work out the extra long extension cords, and keep them from tangling.

19 posted on 09/18/2015 11:55:57 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: Reaganez

I operated heavy equipment for years—and years before the damned EPA was even a spurt in Nixon’s statist pants.

Particulate exhaust never harmed me, and by nature is not airborne long. Diesels are much more efficient than gasoline engines and thereby less polluting, but tyranny cares nothing for inconvenient facts.


20 posted on 09/18/2015 11:57:48 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (If Washington was judged with the same standard as Sodom, it would not exist.)
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