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Immigrant Welfare Addiction-It's not just illegal aliens who are the problem.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | September 11, 2015 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 09/11/2015 7:18:09 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 09/11/2015 7:18:09 AM PDT by SJackson
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Liberal Mind: American citizens aren’t getting enough welfare, give them more.

Conservative Mind: Kick out the illegal aliens, and 50%??!!!!! cut that number in half while you’re at it.


2 posted on 09/11/2015 7:19:48 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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Perhaps a little off topic, but relevant to the refugee crisis as refugees admitted are eligible for Federal benefits immediately. As well as special Refugee Cash Assistance for eight months. And family reunification.

3 posted on 09/11/2015 7:22:09 AM PDT by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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4 posted on 09/11/2015 7:23:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: FreedomStar3028
Although illegal aliens impose a heavy burden on taxpayers, legal permanent residents are even more likely to be enamored of public welfare programs, according to Steven Camarota, the author of one of the reports and director of research at the respected nonpartisan Center for Immigration Studies (CIS).

"Welfare use by illegal immigrant households is certainly a concern, but the bigger issue is welfare use by legal immigrants," said Camarota.

5 posted on 09/11/2015 7:25:44 AM PDT by kabar
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Welfare use by population was 87% of illegal immigrant households, and 52% of citizens. That’s what I was referring to.


6 posted on 09/11/2015 7:27:58 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: kabar
Those who decide to work will do so for less, those who don't provide job security for lard-assed bureaucrats.

Its a win-win for the corporate/government complex.

7 posted on 09/11/2015 7:29:21 AM PDT by skeeter
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Years ago bleeding heart liberals attached to churches and other nonprofit went in to Mexico and started giving free stuff to the poor. Stupid gringos. In Mexico decades ago and today the notion of “charity” is a foreign concept, especially to Mexican peasants. Back then and today there are basically zero charities or what we call “nonprofits” here in the states in Mexico. In Mexico it is nearly impossible to start a nonprofit.

Once the Mexicans saw that the stupid gringos would give them free stuff and were told they could even get MORE free stuff if they cam to the states they came here in droves. When they found that if they dropped babies on the ground they could get even more $$$ they thought they had won the lottery.

The way to get the illegals to go back to Mexico is to simply stop giving them free stuff. Once the free government cheese is gone what happens next is a BIG jump in crime. We would have to be prepared for that. Over time millions would self deport.


8 posted on 09/11/2015 7:33:09 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Say what you will about The Donald, but he has all the right enemies.)
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87% OF IMMIGRANTS GO ON WELFARE??????????????

THATS ALMOST *ALL* OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF???????????????????

I MEAN REALLY

WHAT-THE-EFFING-EFF?????????????????????????????????

THE LIBTARDS CAN NOT SAY THEY COME HERE AND ARE “HARD-WORKING’ - THEY COME HERE AND ARE MOOCHES!!!!!!!!!!!

KICK
THEM
OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


9 posted on 09/11/2015 7:33:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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We have wayyyy too many immigrants, legal and illegal. It’s time for a moratorium on all immigration for a few years.


10 posted on 09/11/2015 7:35:07 AM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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Once upon a time an immigrant had to have means, a job, or a responsible sponsor to get in. We need to return to that.


11 posted on 09/11/2015 7:36:57 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: FreedomStar3028
Among the findings:

An estimated 49 percent of households headed by legal immigrants used one or more welfare programs in 2012, compared to 30 percent of households headed by natives.

Households headed by legal immigrants have higher use rates than native households overall and for cash programs (14 percent vs. 10 percent), food programs (36 percent vs. 22 percent), and Medicaid (39 percent vs. 23 percent). Use of housing programs is similar.

Legal immigrant households account for three-quarters of all immigrant households accessing one or more welfare programs.

Legal immigrant households are a bigger problem. This was the whole point of the article and the CIS study.

12 posted on 09/11/2015 7:39:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SJackson

bookmarked, sobering info.


13 posted on 09/11/2015 7:41:05 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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Welfare moochers, legal and illegal, aren’t the core of the problem.

They are just a manifestation of the problem.

They mooch because they can.

Our government is the core of the problem.

The federal government is the entity using force and the threat of punishment to extort money from those of us who earn it and handing that money over to moochers in return for their support and votes.

Without a corrupt government the illegal alien moochers wouldn’t be coming here for the free stuff and the legal resident moochers would be working instead of looting, rioting in the streets, shooting cops and spitting out a new generation of welfare babies.


14 posted on 09/11/2015 7:43:01 AM PDT by Iron Munro (CITY: A liberal run holding pen for useless headcount.)
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A reliable source recently reported that each ILLEGAL family here imposes around a $700,000.00 per year total burden on the system (perfect for obozo’s Cloward-Piven strategy to bankrupt the nation).

Assume 7 members (direct and extended) per family. That comes in at 100 grand per individual.

While I suspect the number is far higher, let’s say there are only 11 million here now. If I’ve done the math correctly, 100 grand times 11 million comes to 1.1 trillion per year.

Dr. Carson and others have commented that sending these folks back to their homelands would be too costly.

I don’t know about you, but lessening of the annual burden by over a TRILLION BUCKS, would have us square with that up front cost in a couple years. Then maybe we could devote some time and resources to getting the LEGALS jobs and out of obozo’s comfy welfare HAMMOCK!

While any of this requires that we run off obozo and his merry band of malicious and mendacious miscreants, it sure sounds like a plan and a bargain to me!
(This assumes that in the meantime we’ve elected some SANE ADULTS who don’t piss those “savings” away buying perpetual reelection.)


15 posted on 09/11/2015 7:47:05 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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“The most extensive use of welfare is by less-educated immigrants who are in the country legally. Of households headed by legal immigrants without a high school diploma, 75 percent use one or more welfare programs, as do 64 percent of households headed by legal immigrants with only a high school education. In other words, it’s not that these immigrants don’t want to work — many are simply unemployable because they don’t have the skills needed for the jobs available. ‘All of this means that President George W. Bush was wrong when he argued that all that matters is matching a willing worker with a willing employer,” Camarota wrote separately at National Review Online. “It’s time to give preference to immigrants who are unlikely to use welfare programs.’”

To the “I’m all in for legal immigration” crowd, read ‘em and weep.

With not only the illegal invasion, but also with a majority of the legal immigrants, we are importing poverty, welfare dependents, and Dim voters.

Why would anyone want to knowingly destroy the country with our immigration policy unless they are a Soros/Obummer clone?


16 posted on 09/11/2015 8:03:43 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Been shown repeatedly that Mittens would not have won with 70% of the “Hispanic vote”. What killed)
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To: Iron Munro
Without a corrupt government the illegal alien moochers wouldn’t be coming here for the free stuff

The vast majority of illegal aliens get their free stuff thru their US born children who are citizens at birth. Over 300,000 are born annually to illegal aliens in the US.

17 posted on 09/11/2015 8:56:54 AM PDT by kabar
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Look Freedom - we can borrow more money from China to pay for all these people.

Our elites want to feel special about themselves ... they want to show their great generosity... so they give away YOUR hard earned money...

Would YOU deny them the pleasure of prancing around thinking they're big shots?

Well, would you?

18 posted on 09/11/2015 9:00:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Mr. K; All

87% OF IMMIGRANTS GO ON WELFARE??????????????

THATS ALMOST *ALL* OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!_______________________

87% ILLEGAL INVADERS are on welfare and sucking the U.S dry, while we give billions to third world muzzie/commie
countries who hate us- and people like my poor grandfather, who never used welfare in his whole life, and has paid into SS since he was 21 are barely able to survive on his tiny SS check.


19 posted on 09/11/2015 9:31:54 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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I don’t know about you, but lessening of the annual burden by over a TRILLION BUCKS, would have us square with that up front cost in a couple years.

Those idiot liberals in Congress should realize that their deficit problem would go away by unloading the illegals. Most of the US budget (70%?) is entitlements.

20 posted on 09/11/2015 9:38:59 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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