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21,995,000 to 12,329,000: Government Employees Outnumber Manufacturing Employees 1.8 to 1
CNS News.com ^ | September 8, 2015 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 09/08/2015 11:33:46 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: riverdawg

Increasingly anything that is being manufactured anywhere on the planet is being manufactured by robots. This trend will continue as will the decline in manufacturing employment.

Those people displaced of course are not going to go without jobs, so increasingly they will demand that government will create one for them. And Libs will increasingly oblige.


21 posted on 09/08/2015 12:44:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: riverdawg
Manufacturing employment has declined in large part because because our manufacturing sector has become much more efficient at using labor.

Bull, it was off shored.

22 posted on 09/08/2015 12:49:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hojczyk

I don’t understand: So many here at FR extol the benefits of free trade and simultaneously deride those that define protectionism as keeping US manufacturing jobs here, not overseas.

/s

Reading the comments thus far, I wonder where ‘they’ are today?

/s/s

It’s like the Trump-bashers: JR came out supporting Trump and the Trump-bashers at FR seem AWOL (at the time I browsed comments), one trolling author in particular that also supports free trade.

Amazing.

/s/s/s


23 posted on 09/08/2015 12:50:51 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869
--- Reading the comments thus far, I wonder where ‘they’ are today? ---

The problem isn't free trade, it's about bloated government, the world's highest corporate taxes and strangling regulations.

24 posted on 09/08/2015 12:52:42 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: logi_cal869

Instead of being so coy, come out with your point straight up.


25 posted on 09/08/2015 12:52:58 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The US worker can’t compete with virtual free labor. So put up with high unemployment of our lower classes or try to fight the off shoring madness. I’d rather pay the 4% difference at purchase time then 15-20% at tax time.


26 posted on 09/08/2015 12:55:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Please see Figure 1 in the following study.

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/papers/2014/02/us-manufacturing-past-and-potential-future-baily-bosworth/us-manufacturing-past-and-potential-future-baily-bosworth.pdf


27 posted on 09/08/2015 12:56:38 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg
Hey Einstein why is China the largest manufacturer in the world? BECAUSE WE OFF SHORED AND CLOSED OUR FACTORIES. Are you really that economically retarded?
28 posted on 09/08/2015 1:06:05 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: logi_cal869
I don’t understand: So many here at FR extol the benefits of free trade and simultaneously deride those that define protectionism as keeping US manufacturing jobs here, not overseas.

Maybe because we understand basic economics and free market principles.

First, let me say that many of our free trade agreements were made by morons who know nothing about business, manufacturing, jobs or economics. Yes, we have flawed free trade agreements. But that does not mean free trade is bad, just that the people elected to expand our trade are flawed.

Keeping US manufacturing jobs here will not benefit anyone. Do you think they will not automate and reduce their need for labor? Do you think they will not invest in R&D to increase productivity?

So, the company keeps 10% of the original jobs here and now the 90% who lost their jobs due to advancements in manufacturing have nowhere else to work because foreign companies will not buy products or start operations in a place that does not trade with them.

You just want your cake and eat it too. You want the foreign nations to buy from us, but we do not buy from them.

Think about that.

If you are a conservative and you understand the constitution, why do you think we have a Commerce Clause? To prevent the states from doing what you are advocating on an international level!

Free trade has lifted more people out of poverty, has made more people wealthy and has saved more lives than all the worlds' social programs combined.

In fact, if the world would reduce their social programs and get with true free trade, more people would be free, there would be less war and mankind would advance farther and faster than ever before.

You want to protect a lazy union worker's job and think that will create prosperity.

29 posted on 09/08/2015 1:14:24 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cruz is so far up Trump's rump that they may need a gay marriage license soon!)
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To: Hojczyk

This needs to change.


30 posted on 09/08/2015 1:17:47 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Keeping US manufacturing jobs here will not benefit anyone.

Oh God you are off on a good start. /sarc

31 posted on 09/08/2015 1:23:49 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Maybe because we understand basic economics and free market principles. First, let me say that many of our free trade agreements were made by morons who know nothing about business, manufacturing, jobs or economics. Yes, we have flawed free trade agreements. But that does not mean free trade is bad, just that the people elected to expand our trade are flawed. Keeping US manufacturing jobs here will not benefit anyone. Do you think they will not automate and reduce their need for labor? Do you think they will not invest in R&D to increase productivity? So, the company keeps 10% of the original jobs here and now the 90% who lost their jobs due to advancements in manufacturing have nowhere else to work because foreign companies will not buy products or start operations in a place that does not trade with them. You just want your cake and eat it too. You want the foreign nations to buy from us, but we do not buy from them. Think about that. If you are a conservative and you understand the constitution, why do you think we have a Commerce Clause? To prevent the states from doing what you are advocating on an international level! Free trade has lifted more people out of poverty, has made more people wealthy and has saved more lives than all the worlds' social programs combined. In fact, if the world would reduce their social programs and get with true free trade, more people would be free, there would be less war and mankind would advance farther and faster than ever before. You want to protect a lazy union worker's job and think that will create prosperity.

You are a brainwashed anti American gloBULList. You are dangerous. Worse than a wild eyed liberal.

32 posted on 09/08/2015 1:25:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Why don’t you read the article I linked and learn something? If the words in the article are too difficult for you, look at the graph in Figure 1.


33 posted on 09/08/2015 1:31:39 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg
I skimmed thru it, gloBULList propaganda.

Just what are we importing for the third world? We are importing products that were at one time manufactured in the USA prior to 1970. Does the consumer benefit? Not really, the difference in labor costs improves the bottom line and shareholder profit.

34 posted on 09/08/2015 1:36:33 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: riverdawg
Figure one. Big whoop. What would figure one look like if we hadn't been so stupid as to offshore all of the closed factories since 1970? The blue line would be trending up! and the red line would not be so sharply declining. How great would that be?

You are a brain washed fool gloBULList not worth even talking to you. GloBULList are the enemy of the USA.

Go Trump go!

35 posted on 09/08/2015 1:42:29 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hojczyk

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

https://www.federalregister.gov/agencies

DEFUND/DISMANTLE

Socialism Is Legal Plunder- Bastiat

The Results of Legal Plunder…

http://www.usdebtclock.org

The looting of the republic continues, by invaders, representatives and the maggots around them who devise new ways to plunder the populace.


36 posted on 09/08/2015 2:47:11 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Hojczyk

The US is a Marxist state.

End of story.


37 posted on 09/08/2015 2:54:29 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: logi_cal869

I was at work, sorry. Manufacturing job, robots to each side of me. But hey, nothing that tariffs can’t “fix.” Of course, we’ll need more goverment jobs to administer them.


38 posted on 09/09/2015 12:06:47 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: FlingWingFlyer

>> It was never supposed to be that way. Not in the United States of America.

The product of raising losers.


39 posted on 09/09/2015 12:11:43 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

So you defend Karl Marx on top of writing like a lib and inserting words in my metaphorical mouth like a Alinkyite...

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1888/free-trade/index.htm

Nice. /s


40 posted on 09/09/2015 6:35:28 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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