Carly Fiorina: ‘Inappropriate’ for Kentucky Clerk to Refuse to Issue Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

CNS ^ | September 2, 2015 | Melanie Hunter

[TADSLOS]

It’s inappropriate to pull the lever for another faux conservative like Fiorina.

[caww]

The Press isn’t going to expose her until time to take her out.....the GOPe want her in the limelight or she wouldn’t be getting the press.

It was already stated that the radio host who interviewed her after the last debate wants Carly and Trump to “take off the gloves” one on one in this next debate.....keeping in mind he will be one of the moderators who actually campaigned with Carly. supporting McConnell..

So the “show “ must go on.....

[SoothingDave]

Would you all support this clerk if she refused to give a license to a mixed race couple because of her beliefs?

[WilliamRobert]

Carly is not qualified to be president. She is willing to ignore the first sentence of the Bill of Rights. If she cannot defend the Constitution from government tyranny then she should drop out of the race. Nice business person and politically correct but not qualified to be president.

[xzins]

She is in to get votes that will keep them from someone else and then she’ll turn them over to Bush.

She meets often with Bush’s brother.

[CA Conservative]

Light those ovens, you have your orders. You work for the Fuhrer, he pays your salary, so no whining.

Godwin's law in action here... I support Kim Davis in her stand, and applaud her for taking the issue to court to fight against the attempt to force her to violate her conscience. But I hardly think it makes Fiorina a Nazi ready to gas the Jews to suggest that if the duties of Davis's job require her to issue marriage licenses, another solution for Davis would be to change jobs. You might prefer for Davis to stay and fight, but your reaction to Fiorina's suggestion is rather extreme.

[DungeonMaster]

How many laws do the left refuse to enforce especially sanctuary cities and baby murder.

[caww]

....”She is in to get votes that will keep them from someone else and then she’ll turn them over to Bush”....

Most of the Gope candidates are there to do just that....it’s just her “turn” to dance.

[xzins]

That is forbidden in Kentucky law. The current law says she cannot issue to a homosexual couple. That law has been struck down. She is awaiting the Kentucky legislature to rewrite the law, so that she can again issue licenses. Rumor says that they will take clerks out of the process altogether.

[Redbob]

To Hell with Carly Fiorina - her true stripes are showing!

She’s no more a “Conservative Republican” than Hillary...

[48th SPS Crusader]

Carly Fiorina - Wrong. The lady is simply exercising her Constitutional rights and protecting the actual Constitution, something our spineless morons in the Supreme Court did not do........

[xzins]

Breitbart had an article on most candidates being Bush operatives for just that reason. Rush supported that conclusion, also.

Take Pataki and Gilmore, for example. Have they made any kind of effort whatsoever to visit outside their states? Nope. They are there just to peel off votes.

[Bryher1]

I guess I agree with Fiorina on this one... you work for the government you need to do your job or quit if it offends you (who is John Galt?) If every employee picks and chooses what he or she (ze, lol) will do based on their (zir?) own religion, how long will it be before you run across a paramedic who doesn’t believe in blood transfusions or until you have to hold onto a tin can connected to an ohm meter and confess your sins to get a license plate.

[SoothingDave]

Has this woman actually made this argument? I haven’t seen that documented, just that she refused to issue licenses.

[xzins]

She has simply appealed and has her legal team doing her legal business. I think she’s been leaving the public relations to her lawyers. What other argument is there? Civil disobedience is an act and not a legal argument.

[xzins]

Great reminders of Jim Robinson’s insights about Carly Fiorina. Thanks, trisham.

[Steve_Seattle]

"The clerk’s not even arguing she needs a law to so specify it—and Fiorina, not nearly my candidate, is right. If her conscience keeps her from performing the clerk’s duties, she should resign."

I tend to agree, and this is not to say that the government's position is the correct one. If the clerk persists in ignoring the law, she'll either be fired and forced to leave voluntarily, or else the police will escort her from the office. There is, of course, the option of mass civil disobedience, but the key word is "mass," and if there is not sufficient mass, the tactic will be ineffective.

If we support violations of the law when we disagree with the law, and expect those violations to go unpunished, how are we different from the supporters of sanctuary cities?

(One might also pose that question to sanctuary city supporters, asking why they are so eager to force local compliance in the gay marriage area. They typically cite their "community values" as a legitimate rationale for ignoring federal law.)

[SoothingDave]

Well, there is a big difference as to what she is arguing and what many of the supporters here seem to be arguing.

It is one thing to say “there is no enabling legislation for this, therefore I won’t act until such time as there is.”

That’s a principled argument.

It’s another, as I seem to read here, to say “my religion won’t allow me to marry gays, so I won’t do it.”

Two very different things to be claiming. FR seems to be in wide-eyed support of the latter argument.

[SoothingDave]

Or, as I said, if we support someone in a gov’t position arbitrarily deciding their beliefs don’t allow them to do their job, what do we say to the Muslim who doesn’t want to give out liquor licenses or the clerk who doesn’t want blacks marrying whites?

[publius911]

,..." America is “indebted” to the Islamic civilization, whose “gifts are very much a part of our heritage.".....“When other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge alive, and passed it on to others.”.......Under Suleiman three continents were “allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known.”.. And,... the “Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600, which included the Ottoman Empire and the courts of Baghdad, Damascus and Cairo, and enlightened rulers like Suleiman the Magnificent … contributed to our notions of tolerance and civic leadership.”

In all fairness, most elected criminals and wannabes said equally stupid ignorant things immediately after 911.

Having said that, anyone who does not repudiate that stupid attempt at "political correctness," loud and clear, today, is already in the dustbin of history.

Carly apparently uses the "progressive" library for her view of muslim history, or the Saudi and other sandmaggot-supported propaganda subversive groups and madrassas in the U.S.

Carly, and all other ignorant wannabe elected criminals should pursue their education of History.
I challenge her to read Jihad in the West, Muslim conquests from the 7th to the 21st Centuries, by Paul Fregosi, Prometheus Books, 1998, and repeat that delusional and ignorant statement.