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Lies You Will Hear As The Economic Collapse Progresses
SHTF Plan ^ | 8/27/2015 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 08/29/2015 3:04:20 AM PDT by HomerBohn

It is undeniable; the final collapse triggers are upon us, triggers alternative economists have been warning about since the initial implosion of 2008. In the years since the derivatives disaster, there has been no end to the absurd and ludicrous propaganda coming out of mainstream financial outlets and as the situation in markets becomes worse, the propaganda will only increase. This might seem counter-intuitive to many. You would think that the more obvious the economic collapse becomes, the more alternative analysts will be vindicated and the more awake and aware the average person will be. Not necessarily…

In fact, the mainstream spin machine is going into high speed the more negative data is exposed and absorbed into the markets. If you know your history, then you know that this is a common tactic by the establishment elite to string the public along with false hopes so that they do not prepare or take alternative measures while the system crumbles around their ears. At the onset of the Great Depression the same strategies were used. Consider if you’ve heard similar quotes to these in the mainstream news over the past couple months:

John Maynard Keynes in 1927: “We will not have any more crashes in our time.”

H.H. Simmons, president of the New York Stock Exchange, Jan. 12, 1928: “I cannot help but raise a dissenting voice to statements that we are living in a fool’s paradise, and that prosperity in this country must necessarily diminish and recede in the near future.”

Irving Fisher, leading U.S. economist, The New York Times, Sept. 5, 1929: “There may be a recession in stock prices, but not anything in the nature of a crash.” And on 17, 1929:“Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. I do not feel there will be soon if ever a 50 or 60 point break from present levels, such as (bears) have predicted. I expect to see the stock market a good deal higher within a few months.”

W. McNeel, market analyst, as quoted in the New York Herald Tribune, Oct. 30, 1929: “This is the time to buy stocks. This is the time to recall the words of the late J. P. Morgan… that any man who is bearish on America will go broke. Within a few days there is likely to be a bear panic rather than a bull panic. Many of the low prices as a result of this hysterical selling are not likely to be reached again in many years.”

Harvard Economic Society, Nov. 10, 1929: “… a serious depression seems improbable; [we expect] recovery of business next spring, with further improvement in the fall.”

Here is the issue – as I have ALWAYS said, economic collapse is not a singular event, it is a process. The global economy has been in the process of collapse since 2008 and it never left that path. Those who were ignorant took government statistics at face value and the manipulated bull market as legitimate and refused to acknowledge the fundamentals. Now, with markets recently suffering one of the greatest freefalls since the 2008/2009 crash, they are witnessing the folly of their assumptions, but that does not mean they will accept them or apologize for them outright. If there is one lesson I have learned well during my time in the Liberty Movement, it is to never underestimate the power of normalcy bias.

There were plenty of “up days” in the markets during the Great Depression, and this kept the false dream of a quick recovery alive for a large percentage of the American population for many years. Expect numerous “stunning stock reversals” as the collapse of our era progresses, but always remember that it is the overall TREND that matters far more than any one positive or negative trading day (unless you open down 1000 points as we did on Monday), and even more important than the trends are the economic fundamentals.

The establishment has made every effort to hide the fundamentals from the public through far reaching misrepresentations of economic stats. However, the days of effective disinformation in terms of the financial system are coming to an end. As investors and the general public begin to absorb the reality that the global economy is indeed witnessing a vast crisis scenario and acknowledges real numbers over fraudulent numbers, the only recourse of central bankers and the governments they control is to convince the public that the crisis they are witnessing is not really a crisis. That is to say, the establishment will attempt to marginalize the collapse signals they can no longer hide as if such signals are of “minimal” importance.

Just as occurred during the onset of the Great Depression, the lies will be legion the closer we come to zero hour. Here are some of the lies you will likely hear as the collapse accelerates…

The Crisis Was Caused By Chinese Contagion

The hypocrisy inherent in this lie is truly astounding, to say the least, considering it is now being uttered by the same mainstream dirtbags who only months ago were claiming that China’s financial turmoil and stock market upset were inconsequential and would have “little to no effect” on Western markets.

I specifically recall these hilarious quotes from Barbara Rockefeller in July:

“Something else that doesn’t matter much is the Chinese equity meltdown—again. China may be big and powerful, but it lacks a retail base and fund managers experienced in price variations, never mind a true rout…”

“Doom-and-gloom types have been saying for a long time that we will get a stock market rout when the Fed finally does move to raise rates. But as we wrote last week, history doesn’t bear out the thesis, not that you can really count on history when the sample size is one or two data points…”

Yes, that is a bit embarrassing. One or two data points? There have been many central bank interventions in history. When has ANY central bank or any government ever used stimulus to manipulate markets through fiat infusion and zero interest fueled stock buybacks or given government the ability to monetize its own debt, and actually been successful in the endeavor? When has addicting markets to stimulus like a heroin dealer ever led to “recovery”? When has this kind of behavior ever NOT created massive fiscal bubbles, a steady degradation of the host society, or outright calamity?

Suddenly, according to the MSM, China’s economy does affect us. Not only that, but China is to blame for all the ills of the globally interdependent economic structure. And, the mere mention that the Fed might delay the end of near zero interest rates in September by a Federal Reserve stooge recently sent markets up 600 points after a week-long bloodbath; meaning, the potential for any interest rate increase no mater how small also has wider implications for markets.

The truth is, the crash in global stocks which will undoubtedly continue over the next several months despite any delays on ZIRP by the Fed is a product of universal decay in fiscal infrastructure. Nearly every single nation on this planet, every sovereign economy, has allowed central and international banks to poison every aspect of their respective systems with debt and manipulation. This is not a “contagion” problem, it is a systemic problem to every economy across the world.

China’s crash matters not because it is causing all other economies to crash. It matters because China is the largest importer/exporter in the world and it is a litmus test for the financial health of every other country. If China is failing, it means we are not consuming, and if we are not consuming, then we must be broke. China’s crash portends our own far worse economic conditions. THAT is why western markets have been crumbling along with China’s despite the assumptions of the mainstream.

China’s Rate Cuts Will Stop The Crash

No they won’t. China has cut rates five times since last November and this has done nothing to stem the tide of their market collapse. I’m not sure why anyone would think that a new rate cut would accomplish anything besides perhaps a brief respite from the continuing avalanche.

It’s Not A Crash, It’s Just The End Of A “Market Cycle”

This is the most ignorant non-explanation I think I have ever heard. There is no such thing as a “market cycle” when your markets are supported partially or fully by fiat manipulation. Our market is in no way a free market, thus, it cannot behave like a free market, and thus, it is a stunted market with no identifiable cycles.

Swings in markets of up to 5%-6% to the downside or upside (sometimes both in a single day) are not part of a normal cycle. They are a sign of cancerous volatility that comes from an economy on the brink of disaster.

The last few years have been seemingly endless market bliss in which any idiot day trader could not go wrong as long as he “bought the dip” while Fed monetary intervention stayed the course. This is also not normal, even in the so-called “new normal”. Yes, the current equities turmoil is an inevitable result of manipulated markets, false statistics, and misplaced hopes, but it is indeed a tangible crash in the making. It is in no way an example of a predictable and non-threatening “market cycle”, and the fact that mainstream talking heads and the people who parrot them had absolutely no clue it was coming is only further evidence of this.

The Fed Will Never Raise Rates

Don’t count on it. Public statements by globalist entities like the IMF on China, for example, have argued that their current crisis is merely part of the “new normal”; a future in which stagnant growth and reduced living standards is the way things are supposed to be. I expect the Fed will use the same exact argument to support the end of zero interest rates in the U.S., claiming that the decline of American wealth and living standards is a natural part of the new economic world order we are entering.

That’s right, mark my words, one day soon the Fed, the IMF, the BIS and others will attempt to convince the American people that the erosion of the economy and the loss of world reserve status is actually a “good thing”. They will claim that a strong dollar is the cause of all our economic pain and that a loss in value is necessary. In the meantime they will, of course, downplay the tragedies that will result as the shift toward dollar devaluation smashes down on the heads of the populace.

A rate hike may not occur in September. In fact, as I predicted in my last article, the Fed is already hinting at a delay in order to boost markets, or at least slow down the current carnage to a more manageable level. But, they WILL raise rates in the near term, likely before the end of this year after a few high tension meetings in which the financial world will sit anxiously waiting for the word on high. Why would they raise rates? Some people just don’t seem to grasp the fact that the job of the Federal Reserve is to destroy the American economic system, not protect it. Once you understand this dynamic then everything the central bank does makes perfect sense.

A rate increase will occur exactly because that is what is needed to further destabilize U.S. market psychology to make way for the “great economic reset” that the IMF and Christine Lagarde are so fond of promoting. Beyond this, many people seem to be forgetting that ZIRP is still operating, yet, volatility is trending negative anyway. Remember when everyone was ready to put on their ‘Dow 20,000′ hat, certain in the omnipotence of central bank stimulus and QE infinity? Yeah…clearly that was a pipe dream.

ZIRP has run it’s course. It is no longer feeding the markets as it once did and the fundamentals are too obvious to deny.

The globalists at the Bank for International Settlements in spring openly deemed the existence of low interest rate policies a potential trigger for crisis. Their statements correlate with the BIS tendency to “predict” terrible market events they helped to create while at the same time misrepresenting the reasons behind them.

The point is, ZIRP has done the job it was meant to do. There is no longer any reason for the Fed to leave it in place.

Get Ready For QE4

Again, don’t count on it. Or at the very least, don’t expect renewed QE to have any lasting effect on the market if it is initiated.

There is truly no point to the launch of a fourth QE program, but do expect that the Fed will plant the possibility in the media every once in a while to mislead investors. First, the Fed knows that it would be an open admission that the last three QE’s were an utter failure, and while their job is to dismantle the U.S. economy, I don’t think they are looking to take immediate blame for the whole mess. QE4 would be as much a disaster as the ECB’s last stimulus program was in Europe, not to mention the past several stimulus actions by the PBOC in China. I’ll say it one more time – fiat stimulus has a shelf life, and that shelf life is over for the entire globe. The days of artificially supported markets are nearly done and they are never coming back again.

I see little advantage for the Fed to bring QE4 into the picture. If the goal is to derail the dollar, that action is already well underway as the IMF carefully sets the stage for the Yuan to enter the SDR global currency basket next year, threatening the dollar’s world reserve status. China also continues to dump hundreds of billions in U.S. treasuries inevitably leading to a rush to a dump of treasuries by other nations. The dollar is a dead currency walking, and the Fed won’t even have to print Weimar Germany-style in order to kill it.

It’s Not As Bad As It Seems

Yes, it is exactly as bad as it seems if not worse. When the Dow can open 1000 points down on a Monday and China can lose all of its gains for 2015 in the span of a few weeks despite institutionalized stimulus measures lasting years, then something is very wrong. This is not a “hiccup”. This is not a correction which has already hit bottom. This is only the beginning of the end.

Stocks are not a predictive indicator. They do not follow positive or negative fundamentals. Stocks do not crash before or during the development of an ailing economy. Stocks crash after the economy has already gone comatose. Stocks crash when the system is no longer salvageable. Since 2008, nothing in the global financial structure has been salvaged and now the central banking edifice is either unable or unwilling (I believe both) to supply the tools to allow us even to pretend that it can be salvaged. We’re going to feel the hurt now, all while the establishment tells us the whole thing is in our heads.


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There’s no effective way for the layman to predict what markets will do with any degree of accuracy. All we see are trends that may or may not mean anything. However, when you see 1000 point swings which are way out of the norm, there is a tendency to become wary. Stability and predictability are good. Erratic market behavior is a red flag signaling something is quite wrong.
1 posted on 08/29/2015 3:04:21 AM PDT by HomerBohn
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To: HomerBohn
CNN Tells Americans That The Stock Market Is Not Going To Crash

The "rallies" the last few days will, unfortunately, cause many of those who have got out to get back in, or convince those who were getting out to rather stay in the markets until it is too late. That may have been the intension of those who are manipulating the markets and currencies.

Dow up as China admits propping up currency

Proof of Federal Reserve Stock Market Manipulation

2 posted on 08/29/2015 3:17:34 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: HomerBohn

~snip~

“...China can lose all of its gains for 2015 in the span of a few weeks despite institutionalized stimulus measures lasting years,”


I thought I heard China didn’t, or has not, choose(n) to implement a “stimulus measure”???

From everything gathered, no one I know, who even sparingly follows any of this global economic interplay gives a rats ass...

Until it bites you of course, but by then, some of us will already be out of the kill zone, making tortillas, popping popcorn and watching what is left of this phase in our global circus...


3 posted on 08/29/2015 3:32:18 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: HomerBohn

Markets are supposed to go up and down. We all can find someone holding a “The end is near” sign if we look hard enough.


4 posted on 08/29/2015 3:41:08 AM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: stevie_d_64
I suggest ALL politicians be ordered to go shopping at their grocery store, buy what they normally purchase and then come back and tell us that the economy is progressing. Inflation has cemented itself in, expect it to be around for the long run.

As the journey to that store, make a mental note to observe all the “Help Wanted” signs, then come back and tell us once again how the economy is improving. The only real thing that is improving is the amount of “giveaways” being received by those who choose to stay unemployed, the benefits at too great to actually go to work. A “gimmedats” paradise.

5 posted on 08/29/2015 3:46:00 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: HomerBohn

It has turned into a large confidence game now. The game does have the superficially helpful effect that everybody keeps believing in all this fiat money and any inflation is far smaller than the dilution of the overall money supply. But the game has the bad effect that people are standing agape at the government and saying “Yes, Master” to just about anything that comes down the road. You’d think that surely something like Obamacare or “gay marriage” would be enough to get people walking out on the confidence game, but people are scared to do it.


6 posted on 08/29/2015 3:47:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HomerBohn

Did you write this sitting on a window ledge twelve stories up? Our current economy in spread and depth bears no resemblance to 1929

If the US adopts a protective policy of less taxation less regulation and some intelligent tariffs our economy will stabilize and gradually grow. And we will repatriate industries from other countries


7 posted on 08/29/2015 3:48:20 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreaml)
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To: HomerBohn
This is one of the goofiest things I've read. "China is important." "China is not important." "The Fed will raise rates soon." "The Fed may not raise rates so soon."

He doesn't mention the fact that there is more than $12 TRILLION in private UA capital sitting on the sidelines waiting to invest. It can't go anywhere but the stock market ...unless things turn in which it goes into direct investment.

Many experts---and they on all sides of this---say we should have had a 20,000 Dow years ago.

All ANY market is is confidence, faith. Capitalism demands a "faith sacrifice" before you get rewarded. Yes, you apply reason, but Frederick Tudor had NO evidence Americans would take to iced drinks. Sam Colt THOUGHT a revolver would be useful but had no proof til, years later (after a bankruptcy), Texas Rangers used his pistols successfully vs. Indians. On and on.

What is lacking today everywhere confidence--confidence in American power, will, direction. You don't need to turn the Titanic back to England , just steer clear of the iceberg. It would not take, for example, the election of a Trump to start a massive shift---only the strong likelihood of his election. And not because of any particular POLICY but because of confidence.

8 posted on 08/29/2015 3:54:30 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Government burden discourages investment nowadays.


9 posted on 08/29/2015 4:00:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HomerBohn

The referring site should change its name to “The Sky Is Falling. ...Again”


10 posted on 08/29/2015 4:14:55 AM PDT by sakic
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agree. All you need to have to stimulate investment is the probability that the burdens will be lifted or minimized. You start to get the benefits of a plan the minute it becomes likely.


11 posted on 08/29/2015 4:23:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: HomerBohn

Here are some more statements:

Sept. 1929
“There is no cause to worry. The high tide of prosperity will continue.” Andrew W. Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury

Oct. 14, 1929
“Secretary Lamont and officials of the Commerce Department today denied rumors that a severe depression in business and industrial activity was impending, which had been based on a mistaken interpretation of a review of industrial and credit conditions issued earlier in the day by the Federal Reserve Board”. New York Times

Dec 5, 1929
“The Governments business is in sound condition.” Andrew W. Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury

Exactly what we are hearing today....


12 posted on 08/29/2015 4:25:18 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: richardtavor

Today it looks like sheer miracle is all that is keeping the economy afloat.


13 posted on 08/29/2015 4:28:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HomerBohn

Here are some more statements:

Sept. 1929
“There is no cause to worry. The high tide of prosperity will continue.” Andrew W. Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury

Oct. 14, 1929
“Secretary Lamont and officials of the Commerce Department today denied rumors that a severe depression in business and industrial activity was impending, which had been based on a mistaken interpretation of a review of industrial and credit conditions issued earlier in the day by the Federal Reserve Board”. New York Times

Dec 5, 1929
“The Governments business is in sound condition.” Andrew W. Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury

Exactly what we are hearing today....


14 posted on 08/29/2015 4:29:58 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Government burden discourages investment nowadays.”

Try working some overtime one week and see your paycheck reduced to fifty per-cent of the gross amount.

Then watch at the end of the year as a new tax bracket has been passed and your tax liability goes up.

Absolutely amazing.

IMHO


15 posted on 08/29/2015 4:31:02 AM PDT by ripley
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To: HomerBohn

The truth is, as America and the West try to raise the standard of living in 3rd world countries, the standard of living in the west will decline. There is more competition. It was great when the Soviet Union and Communist China were closed and did not compete. Technology has also had a hand in it.

If the West wants to to maintain the high living standards, they have to stop helping the 3rd world...and stop the 3rd world from migrating to the West.


16 posted on 08/29/2015 5:21:00 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: HomerBohn
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!
17 posted on 08/29/2015 5:29:42 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: LS

Best post yet.


18 posted on 08/29/2015 5:30:20 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: DaveA37
> I suggest ALL politicians be ordered to go shopping at their grocery store, buy what they normally purchase and then come back and tell us that the economy is progressing. Inflation has cemented itself in, expect it to be around for the long run.

all of us commonfolk have seen the price of meat, eggs, and milk rise dramtically ...eggs are up 3 times, meat has damn near doubled or more, milk is up at least 50% and the cost of everything else has gone through the roof as well. Services and other goods have done the same. Tires way up as well. And that's only the damage Obama's horrible economic and regulatory policies have had on this country. The debt he has run up is astonomical - 18 + trillion from the 10 trillion when he first took office; an increase of 70 %! hell when you keep handing money over to your enemies this is what happens! I lay all of this on O's shoulders. He has the Labor Department liescontinously (or should I say omit very pertinent facts to skew the numbers) to tye public about our unemployment and our current situation. I have never seen so many people struggling financially as this day and age. And he continues to golf on the finest golf courses while his wife jets all over the world eating the finest food and desserts while telling children they should eat heir veggies. The fact is the horrible state of our country is a direct result of his action and he owns it. If there is ever a book written on what not to do as a preident he will be the perfect example.

19 posted on 08/29/2015 5:35:47 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Next time, try chopping up and snorting the psych meds. Original source:

http://www.alt-market.com/


20 posted on 08/29/2015 5:44:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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