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Province warming to HOT lanes: Hume
The Toronto Star ^ | August 27, 2015 | Christopher Hume

Posted on 08/28/2015 7:58:13 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

HOV is good; HOT is even better. As we saw during the Pan-Am Games, High Occupancy Vehicle lanes were great for cars with three or more people and other designated vehicles. The trouble was that they went largely unused. High Occupancy Toll lanes solve that problem by opening up the designated space to cars that don’t have the numbers but whose drivers are willing to pay for the convenience.

Premier Kathleen Wynne has hinted that she’s willing to implement HOT lanes, but has not been specific about where and when. If the U.S. experience is anything to go by, however, this is an idea whose time has finally come.

Of course, there will be howls of outrage across the Greater Toronto Area. So what else is new? Drivers have had it their way for so long, they lost the habit of sharing the roads, let alone paying for them.

Ah yes, drivers say, we pay for those streets and highways and their maintenance through our taxes. So do all those who don’t drive. But just as transit riders must pay to ride the bus, drivers must pay to use the roads and highways.

Despite the historic sense of entitlement that informs car culture in Ontario, HOT lanes mark the start of a more democratic and equitable approach to the sharing of public resources.

“When a new road opens,” says Transport Futures founder Martin Collier, “people assume they can use it for free. When new transit opens, people assume they will have to pay to use it.”

According to Collier, Wynne’s mistake was to close the HOV lanes after drivers had grown accustomed to them but before HOT lanes were introduced. The complaints, which came from the usual political and economic suspects, were more a reflection of outdated 20th-century attitudes than 21st-century realities.

As Collier also points out, even the temporary HOV lanes led to “a huge spike in the amount of car-pooling and a sudden increase in the sale of mannequins.”

Though critics worry that HOT lanes will be too expensive for the driving poor, history tells us otherwise. “In the U.S.,” Collier notes, “low-income drivers are the most supportive of HOT because they’re the ones who are usually stuck in traffic.”

Besides, part of the American approach is to spend money raised by tolls in the area where it is collected. Those who fear the cash will disappear into general revenues find this reassuring. In addition, “dynamic pricing” means drivers pay different rates at different times.

Also important is the fact that less congestion means less wear on the highways, important at a time when we can no longer afford the costs of our crumbling infrastructure.

Needless to say, the real impediment to HOT lanes is political cowardice. Though cars turn too many drivers into monsters, issues such as the environment, economy and democracy are too important to be decided on the basis of road rage. That was Rob Ford’s starting point; look where that got us.

Car culture’s assumptions about what belongs to them amounts to a kind of modern-day droit du seigneur. But for 60 years, politicians and planners have worked tirelessly to please drivers, so who can blame them for thinking they are the cock of the walk?

Though numerous Torontonians still believe what’s best for the car is best for Toronto, they tend to be old, sclerotic and no longer capable of change. They, too, shall pass. As will the tyranny of the automobile.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carculture; commuters; congestion; congestionpricing; corruption; drivers; hotlanes; hov; infrastructure; ontario; streetsfortherich; taxes; tolls; toronto; traffic; transportation

1 posted on 08/28/2015 7:58:14 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Squawk 8888

PING!


2 posted on 08/28/2015 7:58:36 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not guilty on account of HOTness!


3 posted on 08/28/2015 7:59:49 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Cruz is still my #1, but Trump is impressing the hell out of me.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m all for HOT lanes. Why should roads be restricted to 2 or 3, or sometimes even 4, when I’m willing to pay to use the roads for my convenience? It’s the beauty of the free market.


4 posted on 08/28/2015 8:01:32 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (No more pencils! No more books! No more teacher's dirty looks!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I presume you did not do an image search........


5 posted on 08/28/2015 8:03:08 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (No more pencils! No more books! No more teacher's dirty looks!)
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To: 22202NOVA
Our taxes are supposed to go to build roads for taxpayers. Now our government takes lanes away and builds more in order to generate even more revenue. What the heck is the difference between private enterprise and government? The difference is evidently that government takes whatever they want for free from anyone, prints their own money, and arrests you whenever they want.

How sad and hypocritical of a guy who says "I AM WILLING TO PAY." What about the poor sonovabitch who CAN'T pay?

Roads for you and a three-hour traffic jam for him?


Like on the 95 South of DC where the Govt now squeezes everyone into a mess of bumper to bumper traffic while the $12 lanes, wrested from the "free" lanes, serve only those willing and able to pay the special government tribute? What about BY AND FOR THE PEOPLE!
6 posted on 08/28/2015 8:14:05 AM PDT by golux
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Ah yes, drivers say, we pay for those streets and highways and their maintenance through our taxes. So do all those who don’t drive. But just as transit riders must pay to ride the bus, drivers must pay to use the roads and highways.

Um, GAS taxes paid for the roads, but then, a committed fascist doesn't need a justification to be true, especially when he can follow it up with slander!

Despite the historic sense of entitlement that informs car culture in Ontario, HOT lanes mark the start of a more democratic and equitable approach to the sharing of public resources.

Some are more equitable than others of course. I'm sure the bureaucrats will get their road use funded out of the public treasury. After all, they are "essential" personnel.

7 posted on 08/28/2015 8:18:20 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Though numerous Torontonians still believe what’s best for the car is best for Toronto, they tend to be old, sclerotic and no longer capable of change. They, too, shall pass. As will the tyranny of the automobile.


Did anyone else read this, as them looking forward to older people dying off??? Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but, calling people old and sclerotic and saying they too shall pass, meaning pass on, meaning die and no longer have input into public policy decisions, strikes me as a bridge too far.


8 posted on 08/28/2015 8:18:42 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 22202NOVA
Why should roads be restricted to 2 or 3, or sometimes even 4, when I’m willing to pay to use the roads for my convenience? It’s the beauty of the free market.

Public roads are anything but a free market enterprise.

9 posted on 08/28/2015 8:20:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“When a new road opens,” says Transport Futures founder Martin Collier, “people assume they can use it for free."

What a horrible assumption! It's not like they already paid for it with gasoline or other taxes!!!

Oh, wait...

10 posted on 08/28/2015 8:21:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Carry_Okie

If a road is a toll road, and was built to be a toll road, with private money, not public money, that’s one thing. But to take a road which was built with all of our tax money and retroactively turn it into a toll road, or take certain lanes and make them toll lanes, doesn’t seem right to me.


11 posted on 08/28/2015 8:22:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If a road is a toll road, and was built to be a toll road, with private money, not public money, that’s one thing. But to take a road which was built with all of our tax money and retroactively turn it into a toll road, or take certain lanes and make them toll lanes, doesn’t seem right to me.

Precisely. A free market in toll roads would be putting together rights of way via the purchase of options, which could do a lot to lower the cost of housing.

12 posted on 08/28/2015 8:24:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: 22202NOVA

Huh. Where I live, a lane was converted to HOT use, it’s taxpayer funded.

I get your argument if a private company paid for the road.

The way it really works is, a three lane freeway is converted to two lanes + HOT. The HOT monies are split between the express pass company and the government.

The state patrol enforces the HOT lane, and pull the drivers over to the right hand shoulder. Now, state law says you have to move over a lane to give the trooper safe room, and now the middle lane is the only one to use legally (in reality, the right lane still gets used, but some people try merge into the center lane, result is a traffic jam so that the officer can write the ticket).

Soooooooooooooo. Money for the express pass folks, money for the state, all at taxpayer expense, in taxes to build the lanes, pay the troopers to enforce them and in a slower commute in the remaining lanes.


13 posted on 08/28/2015 8:44:00 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Squawk 8888
A couple of years ago I took a short cut through Ontario driving from Detroit to Buffalo.While driving on one of their "Interstates" (IIRC it was Route 401) there were several large signs saying that if you exceeded the speed limit by a certain amount (can't recall exact figures) you'd be fined $10,000 and your car would be seized.

I'd avoid those new lanes and stick to 60 MPH so as to avoid those penalties.

14 posted on 08/28/2015 8:45:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Lazamataz

“When new transit opens, people assume they will have to pay to use it.”

They don’t pay to use the road, the pay to ride the bus. The road is already paid for, as you point out, via taxes.

Of course, at least in our city, the fare only covers about a third of the cost of riding the bus, taxpayers pay the other two thirds.


15 posted on 08/28/2015 8:47:32 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; ...

Canada Ping!

16 posted on 08/28/2015 12:26:47 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

If you’re 50km/h (~30mph) over the limit your licence is immediately suspended for 7 days and the car is impounded. On the 401 that would be at ~90mph.


17 posted on 08/28/2015 1:25:49 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Squawk 8888

That's the one I saw...a couple of times.Are you saying that on top of that there's jail as well? Yikes!

18 posted on 08/28/2015 1:56:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“In the U.S.,” Collier notes, “low-income drivers are the most supportive of HOT because they’re the ones who are usually stuck in traffic.”

BS.

19 posted on 08/29/2015 6:21:58 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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