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The Truth About Guns in Virginia
townhall.com ^ | 8/27/2015 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 08/28/2015 7:15:57 AM PDT by rktman

Since Wednesday's horrific double murder of journalists Alison Parker and Adam Ward in Roanoke, Virginia, anti-gun activists have pounced at the opportunity to call for more gun control and exploited the tragedy within hours of its occurrence. Keep in mind the following statements were made before the facts were in about how the killer obtained his firearm.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment; vesterflanagan; vesterleeflanagan; virginia; wdbj
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#factsdontmatter! Thanks for pulling this together Katie.

On another note, someone is indicating that there are some discrepancies about the video the perp made during the attack. Video seems to indicate a white hand holding the gun and a blue shirt sleeve when other reports indicate the perp was dressed all in black. What's up with that? Anyone seen anything similar posited?

1 posted on 08/28/2015 7:15:57 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

My mind is made up. Do not try to confuse me with the facts or the truth. Heavy sarcasm font.


2 posted on 08/28/2015 7:24:20 AM PDT by GOJPN
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To: rktman

He was a very light skinned black man.


3 posted on 08/28/2015 7:26:24 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: GOJPN

Neither facts or simple truth matter. Its just the usual manipulation of emotion to further liberal control and their hydra headed agendas.


4 posted on 08/28/2015 7:27:21 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: rktman; All
I blame it on this flag!


5 posted on 08/28/2015 7:29:05 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: rktman
The Truth About Guns in Virginia or anywhere is that gun crimes go down when the likelihood of victims shooting back goes up.

6 posted on 08/28/2015 7:29:12 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: rktman

The hatred was building in this guy for a long time. Does anyone believe he could not have killed his victims some other way if he wanted to?


7 posted on 08/28/2015 7:29:30 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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I watched that video. Yeah it’s a dark, blue shirt. Yet from the perspective of the crew at the station (it was still dusk at that time of morning) it did appear in the short moment the killer could be seen he was in all black.

Mind you the guy had a rental car and plenty of time to do other things between the shooting and when it was caught up to and killed himself. Change clothes even maybe? Who knows? Doubt we’ll ever have the events that occurred between them murder and end of it all.


8 posted on 08/28/2015 7:29:54 AM PDT by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: areukiddingme1

Hate?! Causes instability. Must ban now.


9 posted on 08/28/2015 7:34:28 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to deprive me of mine. Kinda weird.)
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To: BitWielder1

Everytown response: “Nuh uh.”


10 posted on 08/28/2015 7:35:09 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to deprive me of mine. Kinda weird.)
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According to the article linked below, the perp had a wig, a hat, three different license plates, and other items of disguise in a “getaway” kit found in the rental car.

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/journalists-killer-had-gun-extra-ammo-wig-and-to-do/article_3a0cd0d2-4d82-11e5-bae6-07208b4468e0.html

11 posted on 08/28/2015 7:36:21 AM PDT by riverdawg
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Dylann Roof: “The cause was a racist who worshipped symbols of hate! Ban the Confederate Flag and blame this racist shooter!”

Vester Flanagan: “The cause was the gun!”


12 posted on 08/28/2015 7:36:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: smokingfrog
The hatred was building in this guy for a long time. Does anyone believe he could not have killed his victims some other way if he wanted to?

He spent weeks, maybe months, planning this.

Imagine if he decided to learn a little simple exothermic chemistry. Nitrogen-based compounds are everywhere and nitrogen can be extremely reactive.

Boom. 100 white people dead.

13 posted on 08/28/2015 7:38:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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The sad truth is that you will never be able to control violence, whether it be committed by guns, knives, baseball bats or whatever. The only ounce of prevention available is identification of individuals likely to commit such acts. However, thanks to lawyers and expressly those who argue civil rights, this will never be implemented. For example, subject shows violent tendencies at work. Management was slow to discharge him, most likely because he held a race card. Subject files a lawsuit and, per his manifesto, wins. Truth be known, lawyers probably negotiated a small settlement in lieu of protracted court time and legal fees. However, nothing goes on his record. Had he seen a psychiatrist, we would know nothing thanks to privacy laws. So how do we identify the individual about to explode? We can’t. Statistics will play out and every once in a while we will have a horrendous act such as this. Accept it but put efforts to reduce crime into known areas promoting violence, such as gangs, drug infested communities, etc. This will not be done by Democrats because it is hard, involves risk, and does not affect the general populace which they hope to totally control one day.


14 posted on 08/28/2015 7:40:45 AM PDT by Boomer One ( ToUse)
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To: rktman
On another note, someone is indicating that there are some discrepancies about the video the perp made during the attack. Video seems to indicate a white hand holding the gun and a blue shirt sleeve when other reports indicate the perp was dressed all in black. What's up with that? Anyone seen anything similar posited?

Then later a black guy who used to work at the station commits suicide with the same gun. I wonder where he found it and what are the odds?

15 posted on 08/28/2015 7:41:42 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Lazamataz

Did you hear about all the stuff they found in his car? I think he was definitely planning to do more. They got lucky and caught him with that license plate reader. His downfall was his vanity and wanting to “show off”.


16 posted on 08/28/2015 7:46:35 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: riverdawg

I’m not surprised.

This is all anyone here in S.W. Virginia is talking about. It’s our home town station :( My son’s roommate went to school with the young women who was killed, and a good, friend of mine has a son who works @ WDBJ7 as a cameraman too. too close to home.


17 posted on 08/28/2015 7:47:38 AM PDT by sevinufnine (A moderately bad man knows he is not very good. A thoroughly bad man thinks he's alright. C.S. Lewis)
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To: smokingfrog

What else did he have in the car?


18 posted on 08/28/2015 7:52:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: areukiddingme1
Blame it on DEMOCRATS AND the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF !
Gun Control ?
HELL ! We need TO CONTROL OUR GOVERNMENT ! ! !
This is what happens when the GOVERNMENT FORCES you to hire REPROBATES !
We wouldn't have THIS PROBLEM ...IF ... WE OBEYED GOD ! ! !



TO TOLERATE HOMOSEXUALS IS EVIL.
This is what we get when we FAIL to OBEY God.
For it is written: Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.
Someone once asked The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE". And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect
that God is just,
that his justice cannot sleep forever."


19 posted on 08/28/2015 7:53:19 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Lazamataz

See the link in post #11.


20 posted on 08/28/2015 7:54:46 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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