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Walker’s hostile waters: destruction of WI univ damages more than the liberal academic elite
Salon ^ | August 27, 2015 | Paula Young Lee

Posted on 08/27/2015 12:31:07 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: DoodleDawg

Actually you stumbled onto a very very very important point.....it is major college sports, watched and enjoyed largely by competitive conservatives, that have kept these same conservatives from seeing what a liberal cesspool these places are.

The loyalty keeps people in love with their alma mater, or maybe their local state university school that bears the name of their state - and keeps their mind off of how the country is being destroyed by academia nuts on the left.


41 posted on 08/27/2015 2:42:30 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Vanders9

You criticize a protected group and you are gone.


42 posted on 08/27/2015 2:43:33 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Another poster said that a university’s purpose is to only teach, but this isn’t true. Universities can provide medical care, emergency trauma care, public health lab testing services, new corporation incubators, and many other services to the general public.


43 posted on 08/27/2015 3:23:27 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

none of which is government’s purview....none of which happens efficiently in the government sector....it’s just more of how they hide the liberal agenda with the fluff.....


44 posted on 08/27/2015 3:28:10 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Her grant money? Did she inherit it?

The grant money was awarded to her to fund her research. If she's not at Wisconsin-Milwaukee then the grant will either follow her or go away. It's not going to stay at the university if they don't have someone to do the research they're paying for.

45 posted on 08/27/2015 3:31:03 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too bad we can’t get the professors to tape their mouths shut the rest of the time.


46 posted on 08/27/2015 3:34:07 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Kirkwood

That’s the grantor’s fault...


47 posted on 08/27/2015 3:45:00 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: DoodleDawg

Universities are not meant to “help the public.” They may help, in the course of doing business or by contract, but their sole purpose is to teach.

As for sports, I’d be glad if it was all abolished. Pole jumping scholarships don’t edify anyone.


48 posted on 08/27/2015 3:48:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Their tears are delicious.

L


49 posted on 08/27/2015 3:50:04 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I completely disagree with you.


50 posted on 08/27/2015 4:10:46 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Lexinom

“If the endangered animal in question were something that would undermine over a hundred years of “science” - something like, say, a pterodactyl - would these university professors still be gung ho in favor of protections and awareness programs? “

Darwin’s law in action can be a good thing like destroying worthless/bloated university staffs.


51 posted on 08/27/2015 4:19:15 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump, causes Beserk Trump Derangement Syndrome, aka, BTDS! Trump/Cruz 2016/2020! Then Cruz!)
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To: ichabod1

Actually the majority of the responsibility is on the grantee and the grantee’s sponsored project administrator. The grantor can cut off funding if the aims of the project are not being met or the timeline is not being met. Some grantors such as the DoD have very strict and rigourous oversight.


52 posted on 08/27/2015 4:19:20 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood
I completely disagree with you.

Then you sir, by definition, are a leftist, a believe in big government doing stuff that government should not do. I would also bet dollars to donuts that you are somehow part of the big education scam gravy train.

53 posted on 08/27/2015 4:37:18 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If these “fish” professors are so good, then private money from, shudder, “free enterprise” businesses, will cover any state financial loses.

Anything that will get the entrenched reds out of the Un. of Wisconsin, Madison, is a plus for the Republic. Check out the Haven Center and related “peace” institutes. Full of reds and cowards, with tentacles entwined with other Hanoi Lobby veterans.

By the way, Perch tastes like crap. I’ve found that Tilapia, when cooked with butter and lemon, is really good. Mix is with good white rice and you’ve got a tasty meal.

By the way, the article doesn’t tell us how much tenured professors make a year in salaries and perks, and how many classes/hours they teach a week.

“A Convenient Omission”.


54 posted on 08/27/2015 4:41:34 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: VanShuyten

Prof. Van Shuyten. Welcome to “Free Republic University”.

You can start to work immediately. So much to do, so little time, money or help. But even one more intelligent conservative (and science-knowledgeable) person here is a welcome addition to the staff.

Bets the hell out of what we have in many “regular” universities.


55 posted on 08/27/2015 4:52:50 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You sure are quick to throw out a slur. What’s your problem? I don’t believe in duplicating resources paid for by taxpayers. I really don’t think you’ve actually thought this through.


56 posted on 08/27/2015 5:02:14 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: DoodleDawg
That depends. Private fundng, like the Chair established in my grandfather's name at Stanford, often stays with the school and department. Same with most fellowships.

if it's "her" money, how does Wisconsin lose if she goes? And since the Federal government is the largest grant provider, we're just talking tax dollars here. you might be one of those "conservatives" who gets excited by politicians who "bring in Federal money;" i'm not.

57 posted on 08/27/2015 5:05:32 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

That’s interesting that you don’t like perch. I’ve found that people either love all the perch and pike families or they don’t. I really like them. Hardly anything beats a walleye fillet or a northern steak.

Sort of like cilantro. I hate it, but the wife thinks it’s great.


58 posted on 08/27/2015 5:32:41 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: ConservativeMind
They may help, in the course of doing business or by contract, but their sole purpose is to teach.

And it appears that Wisconsin is out to ensure their universities follow your advice.

59 posted on 08/27/2015 5:35:20 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Private fundng, like the Chair established in my grandfather's name at Stanford, often stays with the school and department.

We're not talking about endowing a chair. We're talking about government or industry funding research by a particular scientist for a specific area. If this professor leaves then the money will follow her or else just be cancelled.

if it's "her" money, how does Wisconsin lose if she goes?

It loses the research dollars and the scientist who attracted it.

you might be one of those "conservatives" who gets excited by politicians who "bring in Federal money;" i'm not.

I'm more interested in the discoveries that come from the research.

60 posted on 08/27/2015 5:39:31 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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