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To: hal ogen

Please stop with the PC stichk.

One can say “The Constitution needs to be amended and we need a change in the 14th amendment.”

That is the RIGHT way to say it.

Or one can act like “Build a wall. Raise the ramparts. Deport them all. Arrrrrgh...”


12 posted on 08/16/2015 12:53:20 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
One can say “The Constitution needs to be amended and we need a change in the 14th amendment.”

He could still be for this position, but yeah, he'd have to either argue for a Constitutional amendment or simply say that he would appoint the kind of judges who would interpret the 14th amendment differently (ie, that would not say it allows birthright citizenship). He is probably better off going with the Supreme Court nomination argument. We know such a constitutional amendment will never pass, and if he focuses on the judges it will give conservatives a reason to believe he will be solid on court nominations.

21 posted on 08/16/2015 12:59:06 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

One can say “The Constitution needs to be amended and we need a change in the 14th amendment.”

That is the RIGHT way to say it.
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the right way for what5 ???

amend the 14th Amendment to what ???

The 14th does not give illegal aliens any right to citizenship at birth...

If the illegal alien parents are from Mexico then the new baby born here is Mexican..a citizen of Mexico...

Just as Ted Cruz, the child of American parents, although born in Canada was an American citizen at birth...


28 posted on 08/16/2015 1:03:41 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Eminent legal scholars and jurists, including Professor Peter Schuck of Yale Law School and U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Richard Posner, have questioned whether the 14th Amendment should be read to mandate such a permissive citizenship policy. Nevertheless, the practice has become the de facto law of the land without any input from Congress or the American public.

Advocates of maintaining this citizenship policy argue that the plain language of the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment protects automatic birthright citizenship for all children born to illegal and temporary aliens. However, several legal scholars and political scientists who have delved into the history of the 14th Amendment have concluded that “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” has no plain meaning and that the executive branch’s current, broad application of the Citizenship Clause may not be warranted.

In the United States, both Democrats and Republicans have introduced legislation aimed at narrowing the application of the Citizenship Clause. In 1993, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) introduced legislation what would limit birthright citizenship to the children of U.S. citizens and legally resident aliens, and similar bills have been introduced by other legislators in every Congress since. The current Congress saw the introduction by Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.) of the “Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009,” which so far has gathered nearly 100 sponsors.

We need Congress to pass a law and see it is challenged and goes to SCTUS. We may not need a constitutional amendment.

77 posted on 08/16/2015 2:04:47 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Or one can act like “Build a wall. Raise the ramparts. Deport them all. Arrrrrgh...”


Works for me and about freaking time!


88 posted on 08/16/2015 2:22:41 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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