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Biden getting closer to presidential run as Hillary getting closer to going to prison
Hotair ^ | 08/13/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 08/13/2015 5:18:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A Cruz/Warren race is the election America deserves. A Trump/Biden race is the election America wants.

Dude, I think this is happening.

From his vacation spot on Kiawah Island, Mr. Biden is giving the strongest signal yet that he is actively considering making a third run at the presidency. He is asking political allies for advice and gauging the strength of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign as he weighs his options, people familiar with the matter said. Mr. Biden is expected to announce his decision next month…

He’d have to start from scratch. Mr. Biden has no super PAC to back his candidacy with independent fundraising or a network of paid staff in early voting states. And Mrs. Clinton has already signed up some of the party’s most seasoned pollsters, fundraisers and data analysts. His entry also could prompt Mrs. Clinton’s supporters to rally around her if her potentially historic candidacy is threatened.

“She’s been working at this a long time and has built a massive operation,” said Brady Quirk-Garvan, chairman of the Charleston County Democratic Party in South Carolina. “Even people who like the idea of Joe Biden running would have to sit there and think, ‘Can he build an operation that would be able to defeat Hillary in four to six months?’ That’s much harder to do in this day and age than you would think.”

We’re in a weird place politically when Democratic panic over the Clintons leads to the thought, “Hey, how about Joe Biden?” No one’s really answered this point yet:

What is the case for Biden over HRC? Youth?❌ Gender?❌ Broad party support?❌ Lefty cred?❌ Money?❌ Superior campaigner?❌ Makes no sense.

— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) August 2, 2015

Don’t forget that Biden’s the only person in America who carries more Obama baggage than Hillary does. The best case you can make for him is that he’s way, way, way more relatable than Herself is, a touch of populism in a campaign dominated thus far by Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, but even that comes with a major caveat that frequently he appears to be, well, a doofus. And unlike Trump or even Sanders, the guy can’t remotely claim to be an “outsider.” He took his seat in the U.S. Senate the same year Hillary Clinton graduated from law school. If there’s any political genius to Biden, it’s that he’s somehow maintained his image as Average Joe despite having been in Washington since the Nixon administration.

But let’s say he gets in. Is that good news or bad news for Democrats? I think a liberal could see it both ways. On the one hand, a three-way race suddenly makes Bernie Sanders much more viable in early states. He’s already at 44 percent in New Hampshire in one poll, ahead of Hillary. If, as everyone expects, Biden siphons off more votes from Clinton in the center than from Sanders on the left, Sanders becomes a serious threat. On the other hand, if lefties have miscalculated and a huge chunk of Berniemania is really just Dems who loathe Hillary, then having Biden jump in means Sanders could effectively collapse. If he falls back to, say, 15 percent of the vote while Hillary and Biden fight over the other 85, all the “Berniemania” press he’s getting for his rallies will evaporate and the narrative will shift to one about two famous, key members of Obama’s “team of rivals” suddenly struggling to see who’ll carry on his legacy. Sanders will be a forgotten man, a curio supported only by the parties’ fringier leftists.

Incidentally, when was the last time two candidates from the tippy top part of a sitting president’s administration faced off in a primary? Primary battles rarely boil down to policy differences because the contenders largely agree on the issues, but a “Biden vs. Clinton” race might take that to new depths. It’d probably quickly become a choice between whether Democrats prefer the narrative of a First! Woman! President! with very serious ethical issues and oceans of cash at her disposal to the likable, salt-of-the-earth incumbent VP who’s apt to say something weird and embarrassing at any given moment. Biden could attack her for her natsec/e-mail problems as the tip of the Clinton scandal iceberg and work his way down from there. Clinton could attack him for … what, exactly? Foot-in-mouth disease? Old, old, old plagarism scandals? I think she’d need to play the gender card and stick with it. It’s her only obvious advantage.


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1 posted on 08/13/2015 5:18:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Love the headline!


2 posted on 08/13/2015 5:19:18 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Biden runs it will be hilarious - can you imagine the faux pas the MSM will try to cover up for him?


3 posted on 08/13/2015 5:21:39 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: SeekAndFind

Biden eould be historical - the first pre-documented cradle robber as POTUS.


4 posted on 08/13/2015 5:23:16 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: SkyDancer

We know the mediots are the whores of the leftards...it will be interesting to see just what they are willing to do for Joe Bite-Me.


5 posted on 08/13/2015 5:25:01 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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6 posted on 08/13/2015 5:25:11 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind

I told Hillary I wanted an Iran Nuke deal. So after Kerry got it I called the .....

7 posted on 08/13/2015 5:25:22 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: SeekAndFind
Tough call. What would I chose: Hillary in prison or Biden as President?

I think Hillary gets my vote on that one.

8 posted on 08/13/2015 5:26:02 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: SeekAndFind
Its time to quit the BS, Hillary is not going to prison. Nothing will stick to her since she is under the communists umbrella of King Obama.
9 posted on 08/13/2015 5:27:34 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind

Biden/Warren or Warren/? .


10 posted on 08/13/2015 5:29:35 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: SkyDancer

A Biden Cruz debate.....would be GOLDEN!!!


11 posted on 08/13/2015 5:30:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Michael.SF.

Watch out for the Goreacle !


12 posted on 08/13/2015 5:30:45 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: sushiman

If HRC get’s steamrolled by the feds, Warren just might get in.


13 posted on 08/13/2015 5:32:47 PM PDT by umgud
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To: SeekAndFind

A Biden run would be disastrous for us. Not because he’s a strong candidate. He’s not. He’s a clown.

The issue is who Obama will hand the keys over to. He doesn’t want to hand them over to Hillary. He might take his chances with Trump. Turning them over to Jeb is really no big deal-—they’re all family anyway. Obama would absolutely insist on handing them to Biden if that was an option.

We do not want to tempt Obama to election shenanigans.


14 posted on 08/13/2015 5:33:48 PM PDT by ballearthout
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To: Paladin2

...Biden could be historical...
That could be, “Biden could be hysterical.


15 posted on 08/13/2015 5:34:24 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: SeekAndFind

New theme Grope and Grind with Joe.

Pray America is waking


16 posted on 08/13/2015 5:36:25 PM PDT by bray (Cruz to the White House)
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To: Sasparilla

Wouldn’t that require a mangina?


17 posted on 08/13/2015 5:37:13 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Logical me
Its time to quit the BS, Hillary is not going to prison. Nothing will stick to her

You are correct sir. She will never be held accountable for ANYTHING, unfortunately.

18 posted on 08/13/2015 5:39:17 PM PDT by Mark17 (How could anyone suspend himself upon a cross and die for me, die willingly, to set us free.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gore, Biden, and Kerry, the intellectual giants of the Democratic Party.

Wow.


19 posted on 08/13/2015 5:40:53 PM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind
From his vacation spot on Kiawah Island,

You mean that Joe Bo doesn't hang out on Rehobeth Beach DE with the fags on vacation?

20 posted on 08/13/2015 5:41:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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