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EPA won’t face fines for polluting rivers with orange muck
The Washington Times ^ | August 11, 2015 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 08/11/2015 9:28:07 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo
"“Sovereign immunity. The government doesn’t fine itself,” said Thomas L. Sansonetti, former assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s division of environment and natural resource. "

Yes, but states and communities can sue the EPA, which exhibited gross misconduct and incompetence. Next comes the cover-up part where people should go to jail.

21 posted on 08/11/2015 9:54:01 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: jazusamo

It is time to Abolish the IRS, the EPA set term limits for our congress critters. (without any retirement $$$)


22 posted on 08/11/2015 9:54:27 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: jazusamo

Actually, Federal courts fine states and municipalities all the time.


23 posted on 08/11/2015 9:55:52 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: I want the USA back

I MIGHT have given their idea a 2nd thought..if the EPA were a Constitutional entity.

Their point is thus void and null.


24 posted on 08/11/2015 9:56:38 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Lazamataz
The good news is it is in California.

It's in Colorado.

25 posted on 08/11/2015 10:02:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: jazusamo

I was listening to Mark Levin last night on my old school, handy dandy headphone radio while I mowed my lawn. I heard the every half hour ABC news report three times. The spill was the lead story each time and they were all excited about how bad it was. They did not, however, mention even once that the EPA was responsible. It was like it just sorta happened. I assume they think that the LIV will likely mentally blame it on the horrible mine owners or something.

The fix is in.


26 posted on 08/11/2015 10:04:08 AM PDT by Big Red Clay (Greetings from the Big Red State)
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To: Big Red Clay

We should at least have a name like we did for Cecil the lion.


27 posted on 08/11/2015 10:05:49 AM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: GreyFriar

How exact ally did the Accidentally breach a dam? I notice there is not much detail at all as to how this happened.

Knowing the Feds, they were setting somebody up to be fined or shut down an the whole thing blew up in their face.

Stand by for the “…Gonna fine the owners anyway, even though we caused it. But you see the damn was built wrong so not our fault” Bla Bla Bla Bla….


28 posted on 08/11/2015 10:07:24 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: jazusamo

No personal responsibility either.


29 posted on 08/11/2015 10:08:32 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: jazusamo

Trump needs to get in front of this. No other politicians are talking about it.


30 posted on 08/11/2015 10:09:24 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: blackdog

All compensation for the locals should come out of the EPA’s operating budget. NO appropriations from Congress!!


31 posted on 08/11/2015 10:14:15 AM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: DanielRedfoot

I too have a lot of questions on exactly what happened. This was repeatedly described as a long-closed mine, possibly closed for 100 years. Why would the EPA even have been there? Why would there have been a large amount of mining water still there?

My kook fringe theory ties this in with another kook fringe theory - why did it take the Fed 6 months to return ANY gold to Germany? Now I’m wondering if the government itself is mining at old gold mines to get the actual physical gold they’ve been CLAIMING they have (but many doubt). That would explain both what the EPA was doing there AND what took so long to come up with the gold - they are mining it!


32 posted on 08/11/2015 10:16:10 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: EternalVigilance

California, Colorado, whichever. It’s a leftist state starting with the letter C. :)


33 posted on 08/11/2015 10:19:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Dear Jeb Bush..... Trump upped his game. Up yours!.... Love, Laz.)
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To: jazusamo

Bump


34 posted on 08/11/2015 10:21:58 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Before it can get any better it has to stop getting worse - vote 4 most conservative available)
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http://www.nationaljournal.com/

4 Things to Know About Gina McCarthy, Obama’s Pick to Head EPA

By Catherine Hollander

March 4, 2013 President Obama on Monday announced his selection of Gina McCarthy, the Environmental Protection Agency’s assistant administrator for the Office of Air and Radiation, to head EPA. Here are a few things you should know about McCarthy:

1.She’s a tough-talking and enthusiastic Bostonian. McCarthy, who hails from Dorchester, Mass., is Irish Catholic and speaks with a pronounced Boston accent. The approach she’s taken to her work at EPA earned her the nickname “Obama’s green quarterback” from some environmentalists. McCarthy once described in a speech getting to yell “Play ball!” at a Red Sox game. “Now, there’s nothing cooler than that,” she said. “I did it with real gusto. Should I do it again? Play balllll!” (McCarthy is also is known for her sense of humor.)

2.She’s an anthropologist. McCarthy studied social anthropology as an undergraduate at the University of Massachusetts (Boston) before going on to receive a joint M.S. degree in environmental health engineering and planning and policy from Tufts University. The former degree may seem less relevant to her current post than the latter. “People ask me why did social anthropology prepare you for the work that you’re doing in government? Well, everyone who asked me that, I wondered if they had ever been in the Massachusetts Legislature, whether they had ever been in the Connecticut Legislature, and whether they had ever visited Congress recently, because it is a primitive society into itself,” McCarthy joked. But really, she said, it taught her to “relish diversity.”

3.She’s a longtime government official — and even worked for Mitt Romney. All told, McCarthy has been working for federal and state governments for more than 25 years. Her career has spanned five Massachusetts governors, including former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, one Connecticut governor, Jodi Rell, under whom she ran the state’s Environmental Protection Department. She was confirmed to EPA and came to Washington in 2009.

4.Her confirmation won’t be a picnic. Obama, who vowed to make tackling the threat of climate change a second-term priority, is likely to rely heavily on EPA to carry out that agenda, at least initially, which is likely to thrust the agency into the political spotlight. McCarthy will have to answer for her agency, which isn’t the most popular among congressional Republicans, who have criticized the regulations it has rolled out in recent years as job-killers. The Washington Post reports that the coal industry could raise some opposition to her nomination, as may Senate Republicans, according to The Wall Street Journal. On the other hand, McCarthy is popular with environmentalists, and she even has support within the energy industry, including from groups that don’t tend to see eye to eye with EPA.

Office and Division Phone Numbers

Regional Administrator’s Office:

(404) 562-8357

Superfund Division: (404) 562-8583
Water Protection Division: (404) 562-9345
Criminal Investigation Division: (404) 562-9795
TTY Number for the Hearing Impaired: (404) 562-8339


35 posted on 08/11/2015 10:22:30 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("It's the hard working, tax paying citizens of the United States that are suffering...")
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I tend to think it was done on purpose. Bigger budget for that regional office. Bigger budget for sub contractor services. Bigger budget for cleanup.

Washington DC rewards failure and punishes successes. Come in ahead of time and under budget and I'll show you trouble.

Remember those guys who went to a zoo and got Lynx fur to go spread around their National Forest to swell their budget, prevent public entry, and swell their ranks?

36 posted on 08/11/2015 10:31:39 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: jazusamo

37 posted on 08/11/2015 10:33:18 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: jazusamo

E xistential

P ollution

A gency


38 posted on 08/11/2015 10:34:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Antoninus II

Oh, they will come up with Sally, the duck......Or Betsy, the baby cougar.......all covered in orange mud and hanging on to life by a federal dollar thread. It will be on TV 24/7 until congress votes money to clean up the mess.


39 posted on 08/11/2015 10:40:53 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I live with an earth scientist and he says what you did ..it will have those metals there forever...and he said it is the arsenic making it orange.

This is why one should always have a way to get clean water if the primary source is contaminated.


40 posted on 08/11/2015 10:55:22 AM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today.))
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