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Donald Trump's immigration policy is insane. But at least he has one.
The Week ^ | August 5, 2015 | Paul Waldman, senior writer, The American Prospect & contibutor, The Washington Post

Posted on 08/05/2015 12:34:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump is many things, but a deep thinker with a nuanced grasp of the complexities of public policy is not one of them. Yet he stands firmly at the front of the GOP presidential pack largely because of one issue: immigration. And before you dismiss his thoughts on the subject as the rantings of a simple-minded xenophobe, understand that more than any other candidate, he's offering Republican primary voters some actual concrete ideas for how to address this challenge.

That isn't to say that those ideas aren't insane and impractical, because they most certainly are. Trump wants to build a wall over all 1,933 miles of the U.S. border with Mexico, which would of course be the most luxurious, super-classy border wall this side of Monte Carlo (is there enough cubic zirconia in the world?). He also wants to round up and deport the 11 million unauthorized immigrants currently residing in the United States.

Say what you will about that, it's an idea. And that's what Republican voters seem to be responding to. Trump offers something emphatic and understandable, where the other candidates hem and haw and hedge.

Yes, building a 1,933-mile-long wall, through rugged terrain and over land held by lots of private owners, would be absurdly impractical and expensive. And arresting and deporting 11 million people would be a staggering task; the cost estimates range from $200 billion to $600 billion.

Even apart from the cost, how could you find all those people without turning America into a police state? But not to worry, because Trump can do it. "Politicians aren't going to find them because they have no clue. We will find them, we will get them out," he told CNN. "It's feasible if you know how to manage. Politicians don't know how to manage." Then after all 11 million are gone, Trump would let some back in "if they're really good people."

Those are the kinds of answers Trump gives to these questions, and should anyone be surprised at their appeal? After all, Republican voters have been told for decades that the answers are always simple and easy, and that if you trust your gut and show strength you can accomplish anything, whether it's turning around the economy or invading and controlling a Middle Eastern country or two.

And on immigration specifically, they seem to agree with Trump, or at least many of them do. One recent poll showed 65 percent of Republican voters saying they had confidence in Trump to handle the issue. Since he got in the race talking about how Mexican immigrants are racists and drug dealers, he's gone nowhere but up.

What are the other candidates saying? For some time now, Republicans have said some version of the following on the issue: "First, we have to secure the border. Then after the border is secure, we can talk about some kind of path to legalization for the people who are here now." What they almost never do is give any detail on what it means to "secure the border." That may be a way to avoid dealing with the undocumented forever, since you can always say that the border isn't quite secure just yet. Or it may be that they really have no idea what we should do that we're not already doing.

Keep in mind that in recent years, the border has become much more secure by any standard. In the last decade, the Border Patrol's funding has doubled, and the number of border agents has increased by almost as much. As The Washington Post reported a couple of months ago, "As the Department of Homeland Security continues to pour money into border security, evidence is emerging that illegal immigration flows have fallen to their lowest level in at least two decades." Net migration from Mexico has fallen to zero, meaning there are as many people moving to Mexico from the United States as vice-versa.

Given those facts, it's a little hard to see what the candidates can say they want to do, other than: "The same thing as Barack Obama, but, you know, more." Which may be why they only talk in vague generalities.

Except for Trump, that is. Trump's border wall and mass deportations are never going to happen, but every primary voter knows where he stands and what he wants to do. In a primary with 17 candidates, 16 of whom are politicians basically pretending that they have concrete and feasible plans to reform immigration policy, that may be more than enough.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Mexico; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; US: Texas
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I hate this kind of elitist snob.
1 posted on 08/05/2015 12:34:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trumps immigration plan is...
His trade plan is...
His jobs plan is...
His military plan is...
His...

Evidently just fine with the public.

The media is going to get an opportunity to realize just how tiny and insignificant they are in this nation.


2 posted on 08/05/2015 12:36:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (if black lives matter so much, why don't blacks stop causing them to end prematurely)
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To: DoughtyOne

Doesn’t matter...

It will be an awesome plan


3 posted on 08/05/2015 12:37:34 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Yes, building a 1,933-mile-long wall, through rugged terrain and over land held by lots of private owners, would be absurdly impractical and expensive.”

Take 100% of tax payer funding from Planned Parenthood and put it on the wall.

If that’s not enough, take funding from Obamacare.

if that’s not enough, take it out of the paycheck of elected reps including the Dicktater, Obama.

America needs the wall.

America does not need any of that other sh*t.


4 posted on 08/05/2015 12:39:30 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: TNMOUTH

I hope it is...


5 posted on 08/05/2015 12:40:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (if black lives matter so much, why don't blacks stop causing them to end prematurely)
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To: chris37
over land held by lots of private owners

People own land that straddles the border?

6 posted on 08/05/2015 12:40:53 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The slobbering lib media just cannot handle reality and the idea of controlling America properly — which of course interferes with their vote-buying, America-busting agenda.

It proves this country would be doing FAR better without liberalism and the nutcase, power-mad mental cases that foster it. It is strictly a means to EMPOWERMENT that plays of the weak, lazy, criminal, takers that would be their voters.


7 posted on 08/05/2015 12:41:07 PM PDT by EagleUSA (Liberalism removes the significance of everything.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All these articles are calling for the destruction of the United States of America.

What else can you say about leftists peddling propaganda that it is IMPOSSIBLE to control our own border or to rebuild our economy? The obvious alternative is that the USA is finished.


8 posted on 08/05/2015 12:41:09 PM PDT by Williams
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To: TNMOUTH

Jose Bush, otherwise known as Jeb! wants to import 100 million new immigrants from South America.

Now that’s a plan we can believe in !!!


9 posted on 08/05/2015 12:42:03 PM PDT by o2bfree (Note to GOP Establishment Liberals: No more continuing budget resolutions!!!)
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To: o2bfree

His wife would approve ;-)


10 posted on 08/05/2015 12:42:33 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“11 million people would be a staggering task; the cost estimates range from $200 billion to $600 billion.”

Well, at the low end, that’s $18,200. each. Each child is roughly $6K a year in school. So three years covers that.

A normal hospital birth is charged out at a bit over $10K. That’s half a “wall-unit”

Any modest hospital stay is anything from $20K to $500K. Full wall unit.

I’d say we’d be getting a reasonable deal.


11 posted on 08/05/2015 12:42:40 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (()
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To: Williams

The ancient Chinese and Romans built walls without power tools.


12 posted on 08/05/2015 12:43:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Good illustration.


13 posted on 08/05/2015 12:43:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. It's remarkable that the partisan media shill (PMS) who wrote this piece wasn't just dismissive and derisive. Trump is kicking their asses. :')

14 posted on 08/05/2015 12:44:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: chris37

If net migration has gone to zero it is because Zero has managed to make even a welfare sinecure in the USA look like something uninspiring to Mexicans.

That picture will change again once the economy can stop drinking the poison Kool-Aid.


15 posted on 08/05/2015 12:44:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Btw I could be wrong but think Trump has called for a wall in certain places and not just a monolithic wall across every mile of the border.

Btw number 2, didn’t politicians already vote the money for this wall, promise to build it, and even gave lying certifications that it was built when they did almost nothing?


16 posted on 08/05/2015 12:44:44 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

When my daughter had a baby 2 yrs ago, it really appeared to me that:

1) most of the children being born were future Democrat voters

2) most of the births were being paid for by current Republican voters

And this wasn’t the maternity hospital in the “bad” part of town....


17 posted on 08/05/2015 12:44:45 PM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What amazes me is how these book worms give themselves the authority to speak convincingly about any topic and they expect anyone reading this rot gut to assume they have a track record on this subject. This is simply amazing.

I keep saying that if they knew what they were talking about, they would be in charge. Instead they are a pack of dogs all barking the same bark which is drippingwith ignorance. Woof! Woof!


18 posted on 08/05/2015 12:46:16 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Throwing out 30 million illegals is as simple as outlawing sanctuary cities, going after employers, and denying welfare benefits.

They will move their leeching lying assess out as quickly as they moved them in.

Anyone who has ever talked to an immigrant from any part of the world, legal or illegal, knows that these folks are absolute experts at milking every drop available from the system.


19 posted on 08/05/2015 12:48:07 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams

True enough... making it inconvenient enough to be here is probably more than half the battle.


20 posted on 08/05/2015 12:49:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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