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Obamacare's side effects: Fewer uninsured, better health (AMA study)
cnbc ^ | july 28, 2015 | dan magan

Posted on 08/01/2015 7:50:23 AM PDT by lowbridge

Obamacare improved key health-care measurements for millions of Americans, reversing a troubling trend, a new study strongly suggests.

The study found marked gains in the number of people with insurance—as other research has repeatedly confirmed—as well as improved access to doctors and medications, affordable health care and good health status after implementation of the Affordable Care Act.

But the research published Tuesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association also noted that the the gains in health coverage and access to care for low-income adults were particularly striking in states that expanded their Medicaid programs under the ACA to include more poor people.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; ama; medicaid; medicaidexpansion; obamacare; obamacarereport
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The study:

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2411283

1 posted on 08/01/2015 7:50:23 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

As always is the case, one must ask liberals AT WHAT COST?


2 posted on 08/01/2015 7:51:05 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ('You can avoid reality, but you canÂ’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.Â’)
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To: lowbridge

Bull obamastuff.

The AMA is not exactly your collection of intellectuals.


3 posted on 08/01/2015 7:52:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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To: lowbridge

Medicaid? So they included illegals in the study?


4 posted on 08/01/2015 7:53:41 AM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Here is the cost. They take your money and pay premiums for people that don’t work, didn’t take advantage of free education and don’t give a damn that it’s your money. If you are young here you have never heard this word but it is COMMUNISM!!


5 posted on 08/01/2015 7:56:24 AM PDT by WENDLE (Make America great again.)
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To: lowbridge

The AMA does not have their heads up their collective @$$e$.....

.....they are progressive conspirators with the regime


6 posted on 08/01/2015 7:56:24 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: lowbridge

Sure - and it’s settled science that Global Warming is our biggest security threat and we are all doomed unless we wipe the scourge of humanity from the face of the Earth....


7 posted on 08/01/2015 7:57:00 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Da Coyote

no, but they are a collection of liberals...and most real doctors cannot stand them.

They’re nothing more than a Washington lobby.


8 posted on 08/01/2015 8:01:48 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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Heres the authors of the study and their affiliations. Note their affiliations with a government department (all of them) and the flaming liberal think tank, the commonwealth fund

Benjamin D. Sommers, MD, PhD 1,2; 
Munira Z. Gunja, MPH 2,3; Kenneth Finegold, PhD 2; Thomas Musco, BBA 2

[-] Author Affiliations

1 Department of Health Policy and Management, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health, and Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts 
2 Office of the Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation, US Department of Health and Human Services, Washington, DC 
3 The Commonwealth Fund, New York, New York

What we have here in this study is a clear cut example of government propaganda trying to use the AMA as a cover.


9 posted on 08/01/2015 8:02:14 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Vaquero

Heres the authors of the study and their affiliations. Note their affiliations with a government department (all of them) and the flaming liberal think tank, the commonwealth fund

Benjamin D. Sommers, MD, PhD 1,2; 
Munira Z. Gunja, MPH 2,3; Kenneth Finegold, PhD 2; Thomas Musco, BBA 2

[-] Author Affiliations

1 Department of Health Policy and Management, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health, and Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts 
2 Office of the Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation, US Department of Health and Human Services, Washington, DC 
3 The Commonwealth Fund, New York, New York

What we have here in this study is a clear cut example of government propaganda trying to use the AMA as a cover.


10 posted on 08/01/2015 8:02:54 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

You mean when you give free enrollments out, people take it?

Wait until they find out that they owe 12,000 because of the high deductible.


11 posted on 08/01/2015 8:05:08 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Republicans are nothing more than "beards" for Democrats.)
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To: lowbridge

People must be healthier now. They don’t go to the doctor as much as they used to. Thank the wonderfully wise tactic of forcing deductibles up to where many more people simply can’t pay the freight and so self medicate. For some this actually does work to their health advantage. I have long substituted Vitamin D-3 for flu shots and colloidal silver for prescription antibiotics to good effect because my deductibles were always high. I am on Medicare now and just getting in to see the doc is complicated and I have learned a lot about herb stuff and alternate stuff and use fish oil and niacin instead of statins, colloidal silver for infections, and have not had any virii in 9 years due to D-3 and more assertive sunshine seeking. My daughter who has not insurance and adjusts her W-2 takeouts to zeroize her IRS account to avoid the fines takes B-12 sublinguals for sciatica and straightened out her severe manic depressive traits with D-3 which she started after dumping xanax and a couple of anti depressants and an anti psychotic. Inability to afford insurance and/or high deductibles coupled with some research which is easy now with the Internet can make many of us a lot healthier.


12 posted on 08/01/2015 8:20:18 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: lowbridge; mickie; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; flaglady47
The AMA has been in bed with The Regime since Obama came out with ObamaCare....actually, ever since HillaryCare was floated in 1993.

The AMA is a co-conspirator in Obama's plan to 100% nationalize health care and it wholeheartedly endorsed Obama's "Affordable Health Care" legislation at its inception. Remember the white-coated doctors surrounding Obama when he announced ObamaCare that sunny afternoon in the Rose Garden?

I have never seen any mass movement among doctors to fight for keeping the nation's health care insurance operating under a free enterprise system.

Not all doctors belong to the AMA (they've been dropping out like flies) but they've never been too motivated or interested in fighting to get rid of the ACA.

Why aren't they more activist, more vocal, more organized?

Too busy? Too unaware? Too insulated? Too lazy? Too superior? Too rich?

Too bad !

Leni

13 posted on 08/01/2015 8:20:37 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: lowbridge

Obamacare made *me* uninsured for 2014, but that’s a small price to pay as long as immigrant Somalis can get free checkups.


14 posted on 08/01/2015 8:22:51 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("World History is not full of good governments, or of good voters either "--P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: lowbridge
Considering the fact that the American Medical Association (AMA) has been in bed with the current Administration since the very first day the Oval Office submitted the Affordable Care Act (AKA: Obamacare) legislation to the Senate via Harry Reid, this group had no claim whatsoever to either objectivity, or honest brokership. Therefore, the resulting persuasiveness of this article is like that of a rattlesnake's, if said slitherer were to try to talk up the benefits of neurotoxins (that is, if that rattlesnake were able to speak, or write, or could somehow otherwise engage in conceptual-level mental activity).
15 posted on 08/01/2015 8:45:44 AM PDT by Trentamj
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To: lowbridge

Study designed to hit states that didn’t expand Medicaid exchanges? Looks like.


16 posted on 08/01/2015 8:48:00 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: lowbridge

I don’t know what strong illicit drugs these boobs are on. My prescription medications have gone through the ROOF since 2012.

They call this “better health”???????


17 posted on 08/01/2015 8:53:11 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: lowbridge

Most of the media is not clear on the reality that there is a difference between “health”, “healthcare”, “affordable healthcare”, and similar terms.

How many/% of pregnancies result in a healthy baby that lives and grows is the #1 measure of health.
Percent of senior citizens who have healthy lives into their 80s and 90s is he #2 measure of health.

Healthcare has nothing to do with “health”. Healthcare is about how many/what % have access to a hospital, to a primary care physician. Inherently, those who live in sparse rural areas have poor healthcare because the population density does not justify a doctor and hospital as close as they are in metro areas.

There is zero correlation between health and healthcare. Many people in rural areas with no access to healthcare have better health than those in urban areas. But not always as there are also rural areas where people have poor health. In other words, there is no correlation, and no negative correlation. Other factors explain differences in health.

Affordable healthcare is a third term. Since LBJ started medicare and medicaid poor citizens have always had affordable healthcare.... if they had healthcare.

The cost to taxpayers is not included in the cost of healthcare when determination of “affordable” is calculated. The cost in lost jobs or dislocations of other costs in the marketplace is not included in the definition of “affordable”. And above all, health is not included in the deerminaton of “affordable”. “Affordable” is all about “from each according to his ability to each according to his need.”

But the above distinctions are irrelevant to the conversation because the media and agenda voices use all words loosely with no distinct meaning to those words.


18 posted on 08/01/2015 9:11:45 AM PDT by spintreebob (,)
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To: lowbridge

And it was all FREE! Free I tell you!


19 posted on 08/01/2015 9:13:27 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DaxtonBrown

QUOTE: “The study found marked gains in the number of people with insurance—as other research has repeatedly confirmed—as well as improved access to doctors and medications, affordable health care and good health status after implementation of the Affordable Care Act.”

The Soviet Union, and most recently Greece, offered access to health care for all comers. It was a disaster in both instances.


20 posted on 08/01/2015 12:13:09 PM PDT by heye2monn
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