Posted on 07/14/2015 8:16:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
It would have been better if he had been a member of the founder of the order whose name he had chosen: St Francis of Assisi.
No he did not say that "Capitalism is a subtle dictatorship that condemns and enslaves." He said that that greed and idolatry for money condemns and enslaves.
"And behind all this pain, death and destruction there is the stench of what Basil of Caesarea called “the dung of the devil”. An unfettered pursuit of money rules. The service of the common good is left behind. Once capital becomes an idol and guides people’s decisions, once greed for money presides over the entire socioeconomic system, it ruins society, it condemns and enslaves men and women, it destroys human fraternity" News.va
From Wikipedia's entry:
Coined in the nineteenth century, in Roman Catholic use the term Americanism referred to a group of related heresies which were defined as the endorsement of the separation of church and state. European "continental conservative" (see Ancien Regime) clerics thought they detected signs of modernism or classical liberalism of the sort the Pope had condemned in the Syllabus of Errors in 1864. They feared that these doctrines were held by and taught by many members of the Catholic hierarchy in the United States in the 1890s. Catholic leaders in the U.S., however, denied that they held these views.[1]An earlier version of the same Wikipedia article defined it as "the endorsement of freedom of the press, liberalism, individualism, and complete separation of church and state."The Americanist heresy is characterized as an insistence upon individual initiative which the Vatican judged to be incompatible with what was considered to be a fundamental principle of Catholicism: obedience to authority. Moreover, the continental conservatives were anti-republicans who distrusted and disliked the democratic ideas that were dominant in America.[2]
Pope Leo XIII wrote against these ideas in his encyclical Testem benevolentiae nostrae to Cardinal James Gibbons. In 1898, Leo XIII lamented an America where church and state are "dissevered and divorced" and wrote of his preference for a closer relationship between the Catholic Church and the State along European lines.[3]
Related threads:
Americanism, Then and Now: Our Pet Heresy (encyclical of Pope Leo XIII)
‘Americanism’: Phantom Heresy or Fact?
Why Am I So Hard on Conservative American Catholics…/a>
The Vortex—Star-Spangled Heresy
Catholic Government [Michael Voris video].
CatholicTV calls for "Benevolent Dictatorship"?!
Appears they have some history of condemning communism too.
"Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages."
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=30508
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"...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."--Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984
Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" [i.e. 'reverend Wright's thing] and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html
Those words By Bergoglio written in 1998 endorsing unreservedly the Cuban Stalinist regime that have oppressed for over half a century the Cuban people is a prelude of what to expect from Francis papacy, he exposes his unmitigated hatred towards U.S. and free enterprise and his full support for socialist regimes regardless of their record of oppression and misery.
Yes. There can be no denying the Pope, like the POTUS is a hardcore Marxist.
The Vatican is as capable of making terrible mistakes as the American voter.
The Pope has a deep seated hostility towards free market capitalism, private property rights, and individual liberty. That is plain as day. He has a lot of choice words for capitalism, but never condemns Communism or Socialism. And as you pointed out has high praise for Communist dictators.
So a system that has resulted in millions of deaths and the destruction of nations and economies is okay, but capitalism, which has done more to lift people out of poverty than any other economic system in history is diabolic?
It is time to confront this costumed clown with idiocy of his statements.
“Americanism” is a technical term, and refers to the modernist heresy...that is, the thing that has been pushed since Vatican II, where the Church takes its cues from the world instead of vice versa.
It was called that because some of the American clergy were guilty of it, claiming that America was different and therefore could have different rules from the rest of the Church, but also because most of the bishops were Europeans at that time and simply didn’t like America. But actually, modernism in its different forms originated in Europe (France and Germany, particularly).
Of course, under Francis, modernism has won, and now it seems like the only real heresy is to be orthodox.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.”
“Greed” and “Idolatry for money” does a better job providing for folks than the good intentions of people like this Pope.
Capitalism’s fatal flaw is its inherent tendency towards monopoly which is state-capitalism which is fascism. Any company that is “too big to fail” needs to be broken up, period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq9yjt_JbWs
That's what Randians say. Satanists too. They don't consider sins to be sins.
Which is communism. You have certainly noticed that the most intensely "capitalistic" (in Buchanan's sense) people on Earth are chinese communists, for whom it can really be said that money is their god.
But apparently some Catholics apparently think mass graves, ignorance, and poverty are better than “sin.”
Personally, I think the results speak for themselves.
Say what?
So in effect Christ nailed to a hammer an sickle is him being executed by the Communists
so want does that have to do with Capitalism..Capitalism is as pure as farming.....a farmer puts perfectly good food (seed) in the ground, and with work and sweat hopes to get a harvest or more seed then he put in the ground in the first place(ROI)..its God circle of life system
Socialism is the greed, avarice and the idolatry of money that steals the crop....
Creation of wealth (capitalism) is never evil...the gluttonous consumption and destruction of wealth(eating the seed) by people that do not create any ( socialism) that evil..that pure consumerism of wealth without first sacrifice and creation of wealth ( capitalism) ...that love of money...love of the fruits with out the sacrifice
Under Capitalism, Christianity lives.
Under socialism and communism Christianity is persecuted, fades away and exists in the catacombs once again.
capitalism is just that risk that greedy idolatry of money would never do
funny. Matthew 19:2 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me
How is this not Capitalism..its risk it and you will get a return (ROI) that an investment promise from Christ
the greedy see this quote as a way to posses, to get the rich mans money..the Capital on.earth and consume it.. and never see the point on the return in heaven or following Christ
So which am I supposed to believe, your version or what was described in post 23? Because that one is scary.
Capitalism is our engine of growth. Incentives are necessary. Nobody has tried pure capitalism yet, but many of the principles are here to stay.
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