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A Coming Era of Civil Disobedience?
http://www.cnsnews.com ^ | July 10, 2015 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 07/12/2015 7:43:26 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

The Oklahoma Supreme Court, in a 7-2 decision, has ordered a monument of the Ten Commandments removed from the Capitol. Calling the Commandments "religious in nature and an integral part of the Jewish and Christian faiths," the court said the monument must go.

Gov. Mary Fallin has refused. And Oklahoma lawmakers instead have filed legislation to let voters cut out of their constitution the specific article the justices invoked. Some legislators want the justices impeached.

Fallin's action seems a harbinger of what is to come in America — an era of civil disobedience like the 1960s, where court orders are defied and laws ignored in the name of conscience and a higher law.

Only this time, the rebellion is likely to arise from the right.

Certainly, Americans are no strangers to lawbreaking. What else was our revolution but a rebellion to overthrow the centuries-old rule and law of king and Parliament, and establish our own?

U.S. Supreme Court decisions have been defied, and those who defied them lionized by modernity. Thomas Jefferson freed all imprisoned under the sedition act, including those convicted in court trials presided over by Supreme Court justices. Jefferson then declared the law dead.

Some Americans want to replace Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill with Harriet Tubman, who, defying the Dred Scott decision and fugitive slave acts, led slaves to freedom on the Underground Railroad.

New England abolitionists backed the anti-slavery fanatic John Brown, who conducted the raid on Harpers Ferry that got him hanged but helped to precipitate a Civil War. That war was fought over whether 11 Southern states had the same right to break free of Mr. Lincoln's Union as the 13 colonies did to break free of George III's England.

Millions of Americans, with untroubled consciences, defied the Volstead Act, imbibed alcohol and brought an end to Prohibition.

In the civil rights era, defying laws mandating segregation and ignoring court orders banning demonstrations became badges of honor.

Rosa Parks is a heroine because she refused to give up her seat on a Birmingham bus, despite the laws segregating public transit that relegated blacks to the "back of the bus."

In "Letter from Birmingham Jail," Dr. King, defending civil disobedience, cited Augustine — "an unjust law is no law at all" — and Aquinas who defined an unjust law as "a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law."

Said King, "one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."

But who decides what is an "unjust law"?

If, for example, one believes that abortion is the killing of an unborn child and same-sex marriage is an abomination that violates "eternal law and natural law," do those who believe this not have a moral right if not a "moral responsibility to disobey such laws"?

Rosa Parks is celebrated. But the pizza lady who said her Christian beliefs would not permit her to cater a same-sex wedding was declared a bigot. And the LGBT crowd, crowing over its Supreme Court triumph, is writing legislation to make it a violation of federal civil rights law for that lady to refuse to cater that wedding.

But are people who celebrate the Stonewall riots in Greenwich Village as the Mount Sinai moment of their movement really standing on solid ground to demand that we all respect the Obergefell decision as holy writ?

And if cities, states or Congress enact laws that make it a crime not to rent to homosexuals, or to refuse services at celebrations of their unions, would not dissenting Christians stand on the same moral ground as Dr. King if they disobeyed those laws?

Already, some businesses have refused to comply with the Obamacare mandate to provide contraceptives and abortion-inducing drugs to their employees. Priests and pastors are going to refuse to perform same-sex marriages. Churches and chapels will refuse to host them. Christian colleges and universities will deny married-couple facilities to homosexuals.

Laws will be passed to outlaw such practices as discrimination, and those laws, which the Christians believe violate eternal law and natural law, will, as Dr. King instructed, be disobeyed.

And the removal of tax exemptions will then be on the table.

If a family disagreed as broadly as we Americans do on issues so fundamental as right and wrong, good and evil, the family would fall apart, the couple would divorce, and the children would go their separate ways.

Something like that is happening in the country.

A secession of the heart has already taken place in America, and a secession, not of states, but of people from one another, caused by divisions on social, moral, cultural, and political views and values, is taking place.

America is disuniting, Arthur Schlesinger Jr. wrote 25 years ago.

And for those who, when young, rejected the views, values and laws of Eisenhower's America, what makes them think that dissenting Americans in this post-Christian and anti-Christian era will accept their laws, beliefs, values?

Why should they?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: buchanan; cw2; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; obergefell; oklahoma; samesex
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Another great article from Pat Buchanan.
1 posted on 07/12/2015 7:43:26 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example.

If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.

— Louis D. Brandeis, dissent in the case “Olmstead v. United States”, 277 U.S. 438, 485 (1928)


2 posted on 07/12/2015 7:45:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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It was on drudge. Surprised it wasn’t posted here. A good article.


3 posted on 07/12/2015 7:45:42 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools)
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To: NKP_Vet

damn, lost all my guns in that boating accident.

I have a hoe to kill rattle snakes...will they come for that?

That is a hoe, a chopper.

Not like the Ho’s that the lobbyist provide to our majority on congress for their support.

Ho’s come in both sexes by the way.


4 posted on 07/12/2015 7:51:01 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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Years ago even in liberal Claifornia, we impeached Rose Byrd, our state Chief Justice.

Oklahoma has enough republicans to do this.


5 posted on 07/12/2015 7:51:20 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Rev. 22:11 Let the evildoer still do evil, the filthy still be filthy, the righteous still do right!)
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I’m morally obligated to disobey immoral laws but I speak only for myself.

It’s fairly easy for me, an old retired geezer, I’m not a butcher, baker or candlestick maker. It’s going to require real courage from Christian butchers, bakers and candlestick makers, not to mention Ministers and a host of others.


6 posted on 07/12/2015 7:53:03 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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Removal of Ten Commands monuments is ignorant nonsense. The Ten Commandments appear in multiple locations on the U.S. Supreme Court building, they are our foundation.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/about/symbolsoflaw.pdf


7 posted on 07/12/2015 7:54:46 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: NKP_Vet

bookmark


8 posted on 07/12/2015 7:58:12 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: NKP_Vet

“A Call To Arms” (1985)
by Mike and the Mechanics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHHj1cBDJk

Pass the word, it’s a call to arms
Midnight man at your door
Blackened faces run in the night
Daybreak under the floor

Bring my bow
Fill my head with flame and we must
Let them know that the torch is lit again
Crystallize the pain behind your eyes
Are you ready to fight?

You hear the drum and
Run for your life
Sweet Avalon the heat is on

In other words, I hope and pray
That time and tide wash the hate away
A simple man with simple thoughts
Who turned to force as a last resort

All around us, chaos rings
Buildings crumbling down
Silhouettes in the fiery rain
Timbers crash to the ground

Bring my spear
Invested with my youth
Bring the children near they must now be told the truth
Old and young and those of foreign tongue
Are you ready to fight?

You hear the drum and
Run for your life
Sweet Avalon the heat is on

In other words, I hope and pray
That time and tide wash the hate away
A simple man with simple thoughts
Who turned to force as a last resort

In other words, I hope and pray
That time and tide keep the day away
When simple men with simple thoughts
Will turn to force as a last recourse

In other words, I hope and pray
That time and tide wash the hate away
A simple man with simple thoughts


9 posted on 07/12/2015 8:05:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Of course they are our foundation just like the family unit is.

This is war on the United States by Leftists who couldn’t take us down from outside the nation.

It’s time to start cleaning house. The University nesting ground should be ground zero on this.

I’m also tired of a press that is public enemy number one or two.


10 posted on 07/12/2015 8:06:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: NKP_Vet

if Obumble can ignore the law in order to ruin the country, good citizens should ignore unjust laws in order to build it up again.


11 posted on 07/12/2015 8:06:58 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
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It won’t be civil.


12 posted on 07/12/2015 8:07:50 PM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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Civil disobedience is step 1.

Steps 2 and beyond depend on the results of step 1.

Liberals are slime.

Pure slime.


13 posted on 07/12/2015 8:12:05 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: RKBA Democrat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3309962/posts

we banged it around a few days ago. Worth another go around


14 posted on 07/12/2015 8:13:12 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (A Christian man who is content to be ruled by Elena Kagan is no Christian and not a man.)
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To: BenLurkin

“”Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example.
If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.
— Louis D. Brandeis, dissent in the case “Olmstead v. United States”, 277 U.S. 438, 485 (1928)””

Thank you for posting the above.

How is our government creating, teaching discord:

Legislators we sent to Washington to make changes are going along with the President’s program.

Our president seems to be the president of only a segment of our population.

Our president shows more sympathy to our enemies than to our friends.

Our courts are disrespecting our Constitution and founding principles.

Our leaders are trying to rewrite history in response to p.c. pressures.

Freedoms are being taken from us daily.

I personally am enraged.


15 posted on 07/12/2015 8:15:12 PM PDT by Calpublican (No Comprendo)
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If Jackson goes from the $20 bill, can we remove FDR from the dime.

Besides being a progressive-statist, Many of the American-Japanese he imprisoned are even still alive. As political correctness goes, his crimes are more recent.


16 posted on 07/12/2015 8:19:12 PM PDT by PGR88
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I think it's his best ever, to be honest.

It's time to organize the civil disobedience. We will NOT bake their cakes!

17 posted on 07/12/2015 8:19:28 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Now that FedGov has lost all legitimacy, I expect “civil disobedience” to become increasingly common. Unfortunately, the lack of respect for the national government is a big part of what is killing Greece. Even worse, the far left would love to see America destroyed almost as much as they would love to rule our country with an iron fist.


18 posted on 07/12/2015 8:22:29 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Good article. It's also worth noting the laws that the governments (federal and state) violate, immigration, sanctuary cities, pot, and I am sure there are literally hundreds more.
19 posted on 07/12/2015 8:27:00 PM PDT by Cboldt
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Oh, there’s plenty of civil disobedience going on right now. Entire cities and states are openly and willfully defying the Fed on drug and immigration laws. The government itself, collectively and individual actors both, get caught time and time again ignoring their own laws and rules to the point where it’s hardly “news” anymore.

This apparently becomes a “problem” only when it originates from the right.

I’ve said this here before, but it is worth repeating: the Soviet Union, capable of destroying the entire planet and with arguably the most powerful and capable standing army that had ever existed in the history of human civilization, fell with hardly any violence or bloodshed. How? Rot from within - the citizens simply stopped believing in it, and the real transition happened in a matter of a few months.


20 posted on 07/12/2015 8:51:56 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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