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Court Revives Challenge To Ban On Gun Sales To Americans Visiting From Abroad
SWTimes ^

Posted on 07/02/2015 2:20:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court on Tuesday revived a lawsuit backed by gun rights activists challenging a U.S. government policy that prevents American citizens who live abroad from buying guns when they visit the United States.A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, by a 2-1 vote, threw out a federal district judge’s ruling that had rejected the challenge. The appeals court ordered that the case now go to trial.

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1 posted on 07/02/2015 2:20:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

On earth there are about 170 countries, only two countries require their citizens to file income tax every year. The USA is one of them.

You are required to do that but you don’t have gun rights when you visit your country?

I find that amazing.


2 posted on 07/02/2015 2:44:42 PM PDT by gaijin
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I lived in Canada as a landed immigrant and US citizen for a time. Visiting back in the States, why on earth would I have bought something I could never have taken back over the border with me? I don’t understand the issue, I guess.


3 posted on 07/02/2015 2:47:56 PM PDT by sparklite2
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To: sparklite2
The article describes the plaintiff as objecting to be unable to buy or rent a firearm while he is in the US, with the limitation being on account of him not being a resident.

It appears plaintiff doesn't necessarily have an intention to take the firearm home, although I would imagine some people are allowed to possess a firearm in whatever country they reside in.

The courts are just dickering over what basis should be used to dispose of the case, standing not being fully fleshed out, for example. The unconstitutional regulation is at no risk of being overturned.

4 posted on 07/02/2015 2:58:53 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: sparklite2

>> why on earth would I have bought something I could never have taken back over the border <<

Because maybe you have a need to protect yourself and your family while you’re here in the USA.

Plus this: Although Canada wouldn’t let you take a firearm back there, probably there are a few countries that WOULD allow such.


5 posted on 07/02/2015 3:15:57 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Red in Blue PA

Everyone on our soil should have both the rights and responsibilities of the law of our land (the U.S. Constitution), as long as they’re on our soil. Those who come from elsewhere and severely violate the rights of others should get the boot.


6 posted on 07/02/2015 3:58:31 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The 14th specifically limits its scope of equal protection to privileges and to citizens.

But the first 10 are not about privileges or citizens. They are about RIGHTS that come from God/natural law and not from government or men, as privileges do.

Thus the right to self-defense and to keep and bear arms is a God given right.

My life has been saved twice by an illegal Mexican immigrant who practiced concealed carry. In fact, during the time that I was in that community I was aware that many illegals practiced concealed carry. They did so because they felt that they could not call on the police for help and they did not want to be seen as easy pickins by the thugs.

Indeed, the best proof of John Lott’s theories is the illegal immigrant community and guns.

It does have its downside, however. The only tragedies I was aware of were when the illegals got drunk, got in an argument with their cousin or best friend and pulled out their piece.

When sober, no problem. But the few who drank and pulled it out gave everyone else a bad rap.


7 posted on 07/02/2015 4:20:29 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: familyop

You really don’t mean that do you? Come on, a visiting Frenchman should be able to vote in a US presidential election if he just happens to be in town? Huh?


8 posted on 07/02/2015 5:53:58 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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"You really don’t mean that do you?"

Yes, every word of it. Everyone on our soil should have both the rights and responsibilities of the law of our land (the U.S. Constitution), as long as they’re on our soil.

"Come on, a visiting Frenchman should be able to vote in a US presidential election if he just happens to be in town? Huh?"

Our Constitution excludes Italians, Germans and Frenchman from voting in our elections, so no. But foreign men have sung "pick up a weapon and follow me" in cadences while marching in U.S. Army initial training (as seen in training for non-REMFs), so their old ladies are welcome by me to have firearms in my country. They shouldn't be subject to the indecent designs of any mustache-stroking Cavaliers in their neighborhoods.


9 posted on 07/02/2015 6:47:26 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Manly Warrior

“No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War”

Uncle Samantha fed me 9,600 calories per day, and I still passed the BMI. ;-)


10 posted on 07/02/2015 6:55:39 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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