Posted on 06/30/2015 10:09:23 AM PDT by xzins
Yes.
A lot of couples use historic, picturesque, or lovely unusual chapels because they are not church-goers, have no home church, yet want a pretty church wedding.
If pastors would grow a spine and have some rules about whom they will “marry”, then they would not have to worry about being “set-up”.
When CA allowed same sex marriages, our County Clerk ceased performing any marriages. They do, however, issue marriage licenses to both. They also issue a permit allowing any adult the authority to perform a one time marriage ceremony. That was the couple can have anyone of their choice.
I’m a pastor. I have a license to solemnize marriages for the state. Neither the law nor the document I possess says anything about who I will solemnize marriages for, how many, or how often.
So, that means all interpretation is up to them.
The game will not be to get me to do something; it will be to get me to refuse to do something. Then my license can simply be revoked for ‘not being useful to them’.
It would be interesting to dump all the legal recognition stuff on the state. Would they be able to accommodate it? Also, you know the state would try to claim a vested interest in having successful marriages. So, it’s very likely they would develop some sort of screening and/or premarital educational programs. But what possible standards could they invoke now that couldn’t be claimed to be discriminatory by someone? They’re creating this mess, let them take care of it.
The pastor of the church I attend said under no circumstances will he officiate, approve of, or support homosexual “marriage,” and the same goes for every assistant pastor and elder. It ain’t happenin’ here.
The wedding guests would get to shoot tennis balls at them from a nerf cannon. Fun would be had by all!
That’s good, but what about when his church dumps him...when the millennials get in charge?
Now that Kennedy has said that marriage is about ‘feeling’, why in the world is there a requirement to have a ‘feelings’ license?
Make it flaming tennis balls and I am in!!!
They can take away my license to perform civil marriages. I perform sacramental marriages for Jesus Christ and in His Name.
The libs would be wise to avoid this fight. Some of the most vocal, vehement opponents to homo “marriage” are black churches.
The millennials in our church are just as traditional as the pastor is... and BTW, the pastor's only 36.
Isn’t this just the perfect distraction for the regime’s other actions to destroy America going on while we debate the damnation of the degenerates? Let them go to hell on their own, and do not performs for them a sacrament which God instituted for one man and one woman. A dash of poison in a gallon of spring water is still a pale of poison.
+1
Exactly. That is why you make them take the matter very seriously. It removes their ability to scam. If you have the rules in place, no one is going to try to wade through them just to make a point.
If I were a preacher and was forced to perform a gay marriage ceremony. I think it would be a very easy solution.
I would tell the couple getting married that I am against gay marriage and that if they choose to force me to do it, my entire sermon would be dedicated to preaching against it. I would make it perfectly clear that while they may be able to force me into performing, they can’t force me into saying what they want me to say.
Same thing if I were a baker or a photographer.
I would simply say, “I am really against this and don’t want to do it but I realize the legal ramifications. If I am forced to bake your cake, take your pictures, etc...under penalty of law, I will not do a good job because my heart will not be in it. I don’t work well with a gun pointed at me. If you are unhappy with the result, I am sorry but you were warned in advance.”
This really isn’t that difficult of a problem.
It’s about the money. It’s always about the money.
My wife and I did not want to be married in our home Churches. We chose the Church my parents were married in. We had to meet the pastor, document that we were both faithful Catholics and attend pre Cana. A priest friend of mine was able to perform the Mass, but had to get permission from his pastor.
Does your church ban gay marriage? Then it should start paying taxes.
OBAMA: WE NEED TO HELP PEOPLE OVERCOME THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
Tax-Exempt Status of Churches Imperiled
Obama Admin Admits Tax-Exempt Status of Churches at Stake in Supremes' Gay 'Marriage Case
Y'all are in a tizzy over nothing. Churches will be just fine because, religious liberty, or something...
Re: “As of now pastors can refuse heterosexual weddings if they feel the union is un-Biblical. Like a believer with a non-believer, etc. In my church couples must submit to pre-marital counseling if they want a church wedding.”
This is also the case in my church. My pastor says if he is asked whether or not he will perform same sex marriages, he will say he believes in the Biblical view of marriage, and therefore he cannot. When they say “what does that have to do with it?,” he will say because he believes in the Biblical view of marriage. When they say “what does that mean?,” he will say it is explained in the Bible. Find your answers there.
In other words, he wants to force them to see that their disagreement is with the Bible, God’s Word. It won’t protect him, but he wants to use it as an opportunity to witness for God’s truth.
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