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Exposure: Will the flight range of the F-35 be extended in the Israeli version?
IsraelDefense ^ | 24/06/2015 | Amir Rapaport

Posted on 06/24/2015 5:53:03 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Lockheed Martin and the IAF are in negotiations to examine the possibility of extending the flight range of the Israeli version of the future fighter aircraft F-35 by 30%.

The issues was discussed during the Paris Air Show, attended by a delegation of senior representatives of Lockheed Martin (who arrived in Israel this week for another round of talks). At the same time, it is known that a team of the IAF is currently in Fort Worth, Texas, to work on the aircraft, in preparation for its arrival in Israel at the end of 2016.

According to current knowledge, Israel is seeking to implement improvements in the aircraft, which is also exported to many countries around the world. Sources who are involved in the matter said that the aircraft will feature advanced Israeli systems. "Israel will significantly improve the aircraft as it once did with the F-15 and F-16", sources said.

One of the topics discussed, and exposed here for the first time, is the possibility of extending the flight range of the aircraft using additional fuel tanks. Israel may be interested in extending the flight range to reduce the dependence on aerial refueling in long-term missions, and reduce the need for takeoffs and landings in missions without aerial refueling.

It should be noted that in the past Lockheed Martin had produced a special version of the F-16 fighter jet with additional fuel tanks, for the Israeli Air Force.

The development of a special version of F-35 for Israel will have to "overcome" the new larger size of ​​the aircraft and attempt to preserve its stealth capabilities as much as possible.

Some of the improvements that are unique to Israel might take into effect during the absorption of the two first F-35 squadrons in the IAF in the coming years.

The current flight range of the F-35 stands at approximately 1150 kilometers (larger than the range of the F-15 and F-16). Extending the flight range may allow the IAF to action also against Iranian targets. Nevertheless, even the longer flight range (1,500 km) would not allow the aircraft to reach Iran and back without refueling, since Iranians targets are located at a range of at least 1000 km.

In the coming week, a nuclear deal between Iran and the Western powers is supposed to be signed. In recent days, both sides are holding marathon discussions towards the end of the negotiating period. Iran has hardened its stance in recent days. Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said yesterday in a speech that Tehran will not agree to the requirements of the powers. He claimed that the West "wants to wipe out our nuclear program".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aerospace; cft; f35; iran; israel; lockheedmartin; waronterror

1 posted on 06/24/2015 5:53:03 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Conformal fuel tanks, like Israeli F-16’s?
2 posted on 06/24/2015 6:00:12 AM PDT by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
IIRC, The IAF received its first F-16s just a few months before the Osirak raid. The Israelis added center line fuel tanks..which made the mission possible, despite fears that when the tanks were jettisoned, they might strike the bombs under the wings, either damaging them, or even causing a detonation. Happily, neither occurred.

History does have a way of repeating itself...

3 posted on 06/24/2015 6:03:38 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ryan71

30% is not enough.

The ratio ought be at least 1500 nautical miles/750 nm.


4 posted on 06/24/2015 6:08:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Diogenesis

Anything external kills stealth. No point on having a stealth aircraft if it can be seen on radar.


5 posted on 06/24/2015 6:15:55 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Hillary..... Bwahahahahahahahaha....Thud)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The plane should be able to reach any potential
or actual attackers of the carrier group,
... with or without stealth.


6 posted on 06/24/2015 6:17:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Unless Israel deals with Iran and neuters Obama, Israel won’t be around to take delivery of the F-35s.


7 posted on 06/24/2015 6:44:49 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Diogenesis

I see what you did there.


8 posted on 06/24/2015 6:51:47 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: sukhoi-30mki

USAF seems to list the F16 range as 1750 nautical miles. Even allowing for conversion of kilometers, the ranges mentioned in this article don’t seem to add up, even the 1000 km distance to Iran.


9 posted on 06/24/2015 7:00:33 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Great, so it can be a slow moonpig further from home?


10 posted on 06/24/2015 8:43:15 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Truth29

Thinking of the same thing. I just don’t see where time is on their side. God is on deck.


11 posted on 06/24/2015 9:12:28 AM PDT by mcshot (I pray someone comes forth with the strength, fortitude and burning desire to save our Republic)
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To: ryan71
Conformal fuel tanks, like Israeli F-16’s?

I can think of two options:

1) The IAF is buying the F-35A. They could delete the internal gun and substitute fuel tanks, or

2) The F-35B and F-35C do not have internal guns, but can carry an external gun pod that is itself stealthy. No reason why a stealthy external fuel tank couldn't be designed.

External gun pod:


12 posted on 06/24/2015 9:58:17 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: ryan71
Here's an article from 2008 that speculates on IAI developing conformal fuel tanks:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/israel-to-boost-range-of-future-f-35-fleet-220748/

13 posted on 06/24/2015 10:03:09 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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