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China orders civilian ships adapted for military use: report
Yahoo/AFP ^ | 6-18-2015 | AFP

Posted on 06/21/2015 8:27:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf

China's government has passed new guidelines requiring civilian shipbuilders to ensure their vessels can be used by the military in the event of conflict, state-run media said on Thursday.

The regulations require five categories of vessels including container ships to be modified to "serve national defence needs", the state-run China Daily newspaper said.

The regulations "will enable China to convert the considerable potential of its civilian fleet into military strength", it said.

The report said that China had about 172,000 civilian ships at the end of last year, suggesting the measure could be a major boost to China's navy.

China's government will cover the costs of the plan, it added.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; navy; sealift
In several threads over the last year, some have noted that while China is building a very large Navy, they don't have the sealift to support the projection of force.

This appears to resolve that problem.

How long does it take to convert a super-large container ship into a carrier, or landing ship?

1 posted on 06/21/2015 8:27:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Shades of Jeff Head...


2 posted on 06/21/2015 8:28:48 AM PDT by kallisti (political correctness was originally cultural marxism)
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To: tcrlaf
So while we're disarming our veterans, China is arming its junks.

I believe we have officially gone through the looking glass.

3 posted on 06/21/2015 8:29:21 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: tcrlaf

Why go to all the trouble & expense of converting the ships? They wouldn’t even have to go that far.

Take 1 container ship.

Add 1 or 2 high-yield hydrogen devices. Place in a container. Load aboard said ship.

Repeat for as many seaports & cities as you want destroyed.

Send ships to said American ports.

When they’re all in place, send a signal to detonate.

Voila’! US is instantly crippled.

Don’t think this scenario hasn’t already been thought of in Beijing (and other places).


4 posted on 06/21/2015 8:44:51 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Only one solution left.....)
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To: tcrlaf

IIRC, this country used to do (have) similar requirements. Planes, trains and ships.


5 posted on 06/21/2015 8:57:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tcrlaf

Hitler’s Kriegsmarine also did this with great success early on in the war.


6 posted on 06/21/2015 8:57:46 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: hoagy62

There are actually SAM systems that are cargo container based.


7 posted on 06/21/2015 8:58:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tcrlaf

They are looking for the ability to move equipment and ground troops. The U.S. has marad.

Marad has Older commercial ships converted for military use. The ready reserve fleet.


8 posted on 06/21/2015 9:13:31 AM PDT by barmag25
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To: tcrlaf

Will taxes go up or down after China takes over?


9 posted on 06/21/2015 9:33:39 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Gaffer

Both the Chinese and the Russians have already developed container-based SAM and Ship-killer systems.

The “Club-K” is already tested and is being marketed.

We may have air superiority, but we can’t possibly plink every container in Asia looking for weapons systems.


10 posted on 06/21/2015 9:34:23 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Gaffer; All


11 posted on 06/21/2015 9:39:32 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: hoagy62
>>Send ships to said American ports.<<

The Chicoms are formulating logistical operations for the conquest of Taiwan.

They don't have to come to us, they know we will come to them.

China has developed advanced Sunburn anti-ship missiles and surface to surface missiles. They've placed thousands along the coast adjacent to Taiwan. China will make a play for Taiwan just as they did for Hong Kong and Macao.

Furthmore, China realizes Taiwan and the U.S. signed a treaty and Congress passed legislation called The Taiwan Defense Act. We are obligated by law to come to Taiwan's defense.

Hence....Sunburn anti-ship missiles. The U.S. Navy is fully aware of the capabilities of this weapon system. It was developed to counter our carrier battle groups that would steam toward the Taiwan straits in defense of Taiwan.

This is a pretty messed up scenario and we gave China the means to develop the capability to counter our military.

12 posted on 06/21/2015 9:56:47 AM PDT by servantboy777
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It seems that the easiest defense for Taiwan is to make the Taiwan Strait impassable to shipping. They cannot deny the Chinese Navy approach, but they can so severely delay them as to make invasion impossible.

The first line of defense is technologically simple. Make millions of floating “coffee can” sized naval mines. While they wouldn’t particularly bother warships, though they might, they would bring commercial ships used by their navy to a screeching halt. A few, foot sized holes through a double hull is more than most could handle.

Then you have fewer, but deadlier, naval mines for warships, along with a bunch of tricks to take out their submarines. All the while, harassing them from the air.

Such invasions, like D-Day in WWII, are planned on the assumption that the vast majority of invaders will be wiped out, at much as 90%, but still win if they can establish a foothold. Anything better than that is a bonus.


13 posted on 06/21/2015 9:56:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: tcrlaf
China's government stupid American consumers will cover the costs of the plan,
14 posted on 06/21/2015 11:18:55 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Mossberg 930 SPX)
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To: tcrlaf

We could take 300,000T tankers, heavily armor the stern and fill it with cruise missiles, container SAM and ASW systems. Hard to sink, cheaper than new builds but not sexy enough for the pentagon.
Tho isn’t new. The British helped finance the building of Cunard liners by having the design include reinforced deck platforms to install guns. The British revamped civilian ships again during the Falklands war.


15 posted on 06/21/2015 1:00:47 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: Gaffer

We should; it is a practical concept.

I use it when I buy my own clothing (even for work); lots of Khaki, various shades of green, brown...be prepared!


16 posted on 06/21/2015 2:02:20 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: tcrlaf

Any container ship modified for military use should be excluded from American ports.


17 posted on 06/21/2015 9:59:49 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Barack Obama is not inarguably sane.)
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