Posted on 06/17/2015 6:47:12 PM PDT by Talisker
at least once a week I have to modify flt numbers due to the same numbers operating in the same sector. Couple that with only only one tower freq for all runways at MDW, its no wonder txmissions were stepped on. Try calling Ground for sequencing at CLT at around 1600. Everyone an their brother is on .9 try to taxi..
Southwest wins agaim. Either lucky or good. Probably a combination.
They are supposed to, and probably did with the plane that was cleared. Sounds like the other one misheard it in the cockpit.
Error with the pilot, not ATC, probably.
Because the controller was American. U.S. controllers use double digit numbers consistently to avoid other number confusions.
The question that should be asked is why so many airlines actually do this to themselves at their own hubs. It is frighteningly common.
Lucky. You forgot about all the times they run off the end of the runway.
OK, I know this was the actual headline, but why is this focusing on Southwest when the Delta pilot was in the wrong?
A possible disaster averted. Nice to know we have some goobermint employees that take their jobs seriously.
“Why couldn’t the Flight Controller say “three-eight-two-eight” and “one-three-two-eight”? And wait for confirmation? “
He heard the SWA pilot confirm but someone unknown was stepping on him. That someone unknown was the Delta pilot.
Wins? Wins what?
On some United flights there’s a channel for passengers to listen in on cockpits to tower communications. They seem to ID the flight by saying United 1459 or like Delta 1520 or similar. Always they mention the carrier name and then the flight number and the pilot has to respond back in the same way.
I fly Southwest whenever possible in the States. Best rewards program of any them, as far as I can tell.
Delta made a MISTAKE possibly due to confusion of the numbering verbalization. “Wrong” is a misrepresentation of the whole problem.
Force of habit probably.
[A possible disaster averted. Nice to know we have some goobermint employees that take their jobs seriously.]
That’ll change with the new Affirmative Action controllers just hired.
It read to me like everyone with the exception of the Delta pilots did an excellent job, and that’s why a disaster was averted.
You’d think there would be a better way than ancient analog radio these days.
If an air disaster had occurred it would have been similar to the two 747s that collided with one another on the runway at Tenerife on March 27th 1977 in the Canary Islands. 583 people died.
Two Jumbos Collide In Canary Islands Crash of the Century
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX—6ee7nsA
More about it here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster
“You’d think there would be a better way than ancient analog radio these days.”
Been years since I was in a tower but it would seem that some of the data tower could be transmitted automatically to the planes verifying they are at the required position and have the proper clearances.
You could still have a voice ‘handshake’ before executing a takeoff.
?TEXTING?;)
IIRC, Tenerife was covered with dense fog. The tower could not see the two 747’s when he gave clearance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster
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