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TED CRUZ HQ: A Note to Conservatives on Trade Agreements
Ted Cruz for President ^ | June 12, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 06/13/2015 4:07:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: central_va

So everything I’ve done in life is disreputable, including military intelligence? Should I go grab a gun and blow my brains out? Would you even criticize me after that?


61 posted on 06/13/2015 4:56:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Diogenesis

Cruz has jumped the shark on this and is not a credible candidate.


62 posted on 06/13/2015 4:57:15 PM PDT by boomop1 (Term limits is the only source of change.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Would you even criticize me after that?

No.

63 posted on 06/13/2015 4:58:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Don’t waste your time. Others at FR and in other places are far more rational.

I’m finished dealing with the dead enders. I just won’t respond to them any more.


64 posted on 06/13/2015 4:59:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad political fact. Most people prefer a popular lie over an unpopular fact.)
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To: tanknetter
All the time thinking that people will ignore the fact that he pulled a John Kerry "I voted for the bill before I voted against it" move by voting away the ability to filibuster it by supporting TPA.

That's just incredible. I take it that it's true because I've seen if posted several times. If TPA removes the 60 vote hurdle in the Senate for passage of subsequent trade agreements (such as TPP), then any senator who supports TPA is just playing a game with the public when it comes to the final, 51 majority vote to pass a major trade deal.

Haven't heard many, or any senators getting up and pointing out that handy little feature of TPA to the voters.

65 posted on 06/13/2015 5:00:35 PM PDT by Will88
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To: InterceptPoint
If the TPA had passed we could push through a Trade a Bill to our liking in 2017.

If TPA passes (future tense, since it will be brought up again next week), TPP WILL pass as well. The idea of going back and revisiting it in 2017 will be moot.

Read some of the stuff that's alleged to be in it and ask yourself whether, if true, it should be subject to simple majority or a 60 vote Senate super-majority.

ALL Cruz had to do here was put in an amendment restoring the filibuster to TPA. Then voted no on TPA if it wasn't included. That's it. Everything else in TPA could have stayed the same and we'd be having a VERY different discussion here.
66 posted on 06/13/2015 5:01:53 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for posting, clears up a few things.


67 posted on 06/13/2015 5:03:39 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: boomop1

Nobody wants to discuss why the new majority in both houses that we all slogged through a rainstorm to get there won’t even pass legislation lowering the highest corporate tax rate in the world to put our business’s on a level playing field and bring billions of offshore money back into the US. No they just want a NWO trade bill that puts 750 thousand people out of work.


68 posted on 06/13/2015 5:04:31 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: parksstp

Lol, why are showing me Sessions voting record? I’ve never said I agree with him or anyone else on every issue. But he’s right on immigration and on this particular TPA and the TPP.


69 posted on 06/13/2015 5:07:05 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
Haven't heard many, or any senators getting up and pointing out that handy little feature of TPA to the voters.

TPA is remarkably similar to another legislative process called "Reconciliation". It's where budget bills are rammed through the Senate by defining a process ahead of time that strips out the filibuster.

It's how ObamaCare passed into law. A lot of people think that the Democrats had a 60-seat Senate supermajority. They didn't, Scott Brown had just won Teddy Kennedy's seat. So Harry Reid ordered that ObamaCare be considered a Budget bill and handled through Reconciliation to make sure it passed with only Democrat support.
70 posted on 06/13/2015 5:07:42 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: cripplecreek

I’ve never seen anything like it. It’s as though they were waiting with bated breath for something, anything, to give them the opportunity to launch into their outraged keening.


71 posted on 06/13/2015 5:12:09 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: cripplecreek

I predict a purge soon.


72 posted on 06/13/2015 5:12:19 PM PDT by right way right (Disclaimer: Not a prophet but I have a pretty good record.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For later. Thanks.


73 posted on 06/13/2015 5:18:35 PM PDT by lysie
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To: Will88; 2ndDivisionVet
For the past 80 years, it has proven virtually impossible to negotiate free-trade agreements without the fast-track process.

And according to Senator Sessions and others, it's also proven impossible to defeat any so-called free trade agreement WITH the fast track process.

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As an "opponent" of TPP why is Cruz enabling it's passage with his strong advocacy for TPA? The answer to that question is he really doesn't oppose TPP but doesn't want his fingerprints on its passage. Cruz is playing here the worst sort of McConnell two step. After supporting him without hestitation for the past two years this gives me a feeling of betrayal. Was Cruz really fighting the good fight for us the past two years or was he just strutting about trying to create a donor list?

We should be very, very troubled by the half truths in this piece. This isn't debate club here. This trade deal is an historic event unworthy of such talking points. Cruz is destroying his credibility with this incessant Boehneresque dissembling.

Cruz needs to stop this "moderate" preening and pandering to big donors or he can forget being POTUS.

74 posted on 06/13/2015 5:19:13 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nicely argued by the Cruz team. Would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall as they were putting this release together.


75 posted on 06/13/2015 5:22:52 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can pretty much guarantee most of the anti-Cruzers won’t read this. Settled science and all.


76 posted on 06/13/2015 5:25:33 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Yardstick

I’ve dealt with several of his people as a bundler and haven’t run across a dullard yet.


77 posted on 06/13/2015 5:25:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

VERY helpful


78 posted on 06/13/2015 5:27:31 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: lodi90
The answer to that question is he really doesn't oppose TPP but doesn't want his fingerprints on its passage. Cruz is playing here the worst sort of McConnell two step.

Yep, and he has recently said that the real vote in the senate is the 60 vote hurdle to end debate. He even used that to explain why it didn't matter that he had left town before a final, majority only vote on a recent bill.

If he eventually votes no on TPP as if it's some principled opposition, he will really look like the hypocrite of the year, or maybe the decade.

We should be very, very troubled by the half truths in this piece.

I could comment on several other assertions in this Cruz staff paper, but there are other things to do.

79 posted on 06/13/2015 5:28:18 PM PDT by Will88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My understanding is that there is a nasty section of either the TPA or the TPP that would give Obama vastly expanded executive powers with regard to immigration. Is this part of TPA and if so then why is Cruz voting for it?


80 posted on 06/13/2015 5:32:14 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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