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Rouzer looks to dismantle federal education department
Smithfield Herald/The News & Observer ^ | 6/8/2015 | John Hamlin

Posted on 06/10/2015 2:42:18 PM PDT by RightGeek

U.S. Rep. David Rouzer has introduced a bill he knows will never pass.

Dubbed the States’ Education Reclamation Act of 2015, the legislation would dismantle the U.S. Department of Education and return its nearly $65.7 billion in annual funding to the states. That money would remain earmarked for education, he said, and could go to fund teacher raises or build new schools, among other uses.

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“The Democrats would never go along with eliminating the federal Department of Education. That’s well known,” Rouzer said. “And there may be some much-more liberal Republicans who have a difficult time with that as well.”

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Rouzer emphasized that his plan would not reduce education funding. In his estimation, the plan would free up funds by eliminating the bureaucracy in Washington. For instance, he said, the average annual salary is $108,571 for an Education Department employee. Average pay for U.S. teachers is $56,103, he said, and that number is even lower in North Carolina.

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n 1980, Congress enacted legislation under President Jimmy Carter that split the Department of Education out of the Department of Health, Education and Welfare and gave the new agency additional powers and responsibilities. Less than a year later, Ronald Reagan made the agency’s elimination a key point of his successful presidential campaign. In 1995, congressional Republicans made a strong push to break up the agency under House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

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While response to his bill has been cool in Washington, Rouzer said, residents have voiced their support across his 7th District, which stretches from Johnston County to the South Carolina border.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: education; publicschools
I have a dream and it doesn't involve returning the plunder to the states earmarked for education. If, you want to kill a snake, just cut its head off and be done.


1 posted on 06/10/2015 2:42:18 PM PDT by RightGeek
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To: RightGeek
... and return its nearly $65.7 billion in annual funding to the states.

NO! NO! NO! "Return" the money to the PEOPLE, by an across-the-board reduction in income-tax rates.

Why is the money IN Washington at all? No good reason.

Ronald Reagan called it "the money merry-go-round." The federal government collects money and then "returns" it to the states with strings attached. The money being squandered (worse than squandered) by the federal government does not belong to the STATES. It belongs to the PEOPLE.

2 posted on 06/10/2015 2:50:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
This is a good start because it takes away the argument that Republicans don't care about education.

I say block grant the money to the states for a limited period of time until states can fund education on their own.

3 posted on 06/10/2015 2:59:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Policy should not be designed in an attempt to blunt the arguments of the Democrats.

If you DID succeed in blunting the Democrats’ accusations about education, they’ll just ramp up their accusations that Republicans want to kill children with nuclear weapons, starve them, throw them out in snow banks, and use them for fertilizer.

The general public overwhelmingly believes that local control of education is superior to federal control.


4 posted on 06/10/2015 3:08:32 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

The State is still the government. As JS Mill stated, that when government controls education, it will never educate, it will just make slaves for the State.

All “education’ needs to go back to local control (parental) only-—all boards etc., should be made up of parents of the students. Small amount of property tax would be needed to fund the teacher and textbooks—which would no longer be copyrighted——we don’t need superintendents, etc. and the bureaucracy which is designed to make text book companies billionaires, and people who destroy parental connections and authority wealthy and set for life with pensions, etc.

Return to original McGuffey Readers —Classical Education which is the only true “education” system which gives ALL children the tools to “think” on their own.

Education comes from the desire to Know-—which is only found inside the child. Schools today are designed to destroy that desire to Know——destroy curiosity/innocence-—to destroy the Wonder-—on purpose, so children become useful idiots-—too dumb and lazy to learn the Truth-—where vice (emotions) rule Reason.

Remove all “testing” for exit exams only-—to be owned locally-—no “State” data mining. No computers/screens in the classroom (instant gratification/destroys wiring/integration of the brain in young children) who are designed to use all their senses and decode-—not have a machine do the mental work which is how individualism and creativity and thinking outside the box is destroyed. The minds ability is truncated when machines do all the work-—create the mental pictures that should be generated by imagination (individualism-—not the perceptions of others).

Children were much better educated before “mandatory” education rules-—that is NOT a government responsibility to educate——it is the parents’ Natural Duty to educate all their biological offspring.

Lincoln didn’t even have literate parents-—but if parents truly love their children, they teach them to be independent and autonomous and they learn Real Life skills in REAL LIFE situations——not in front of screens or trapped in group think factories which only teach to fear to think outside the box and embed mass conformity of State Religion (instant gratification and Vice is “Good” and Virtues are evil).

In Waldorf schools, (wealthy send their kids there)-—they sign an agreement to not allow children under 13 to use computers, watch TV-—etc. Why? Think about it. TV watching, etc....shuts down the brain activity-—makes the brain not work like it is designed to do.....it STUNTS the growth and the neuron development. All studies prove that the more TV watched by a child, the lower IQ.....they have pictures of brains of children watching screens——the brain is literally almost complete shut down.....unlike with Reading (decoding uses tons of neurons).

All highly educated people READ BOOKS-—and they are the GREAT BOOKS. The minds like Newton—were raised memorizing the Bible-—the Bible created the most brilliant minds in the history of the World-—the one book that our schools BANNED in the 60s. You DO know why your masters want your children to be useful idiots, don’t you?????? Not their children-—who NEVER are fed Common Core and NCLB or GOALS 2000-—all idiot curricula-—to create dumb ignorant drones.


5 posted on 06/10/2015 3:23:07 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

I am opposed to all government schooling.

I was merely reacting to the proposal to return money to the STATES—rather than to the people.

Yes. There should be NO taxation for “education” because education should be totally unconnected with government.


6 posted on 06/10/2015 3:26:04 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Agreed.


7 posted on 06/10/2015 3:28:34 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RightGeek
Federal control of education is the #1 way Democrats and RINOs maintain their hold on the population.

Yep, it would never pass, but it should.

If Congress was truly representative (>5000 members instead of 435), it might.

8 posted on 06/10/2015 3:34:47 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: RightGeek

There is no conceivable way there could be an abrupt cutoff. But this being said, doing a cutoff in an orderly manner has a much greater chance for success from the get-go.

And also importantly, it needs to be done in the context of other extensive cutbacks, so that just when “the usual suspects” get up a head of steam about one cut, they are hit with another.

This is mirror image to how many of these disasters formed in the first place. As soon as opposition arose to a massive government seizure of power in one way, they would do a massive government seizure of power in an unrelated thing. Which kept its opposition in disarray.


9 posted on 06/10/2015 3:36:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: RightGeek; All

OUTSTANDING posts BUMP!


10 posted on 06/10/2015 3:40:18 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: backwoods-engineer

I have a long-held belief (30+ years) that “Government Education” is an evil beyond comprehension in these “United” states..

If “you” cannot afford a private education for you kids, you cannot afford to have kids..

It’s a racket.., grossly. Government workers/teachers work for the government and then retire at the ripe old age of 51-ish.. Nice.. A racket..

Not all, just most... Most!


11 posted on 06/10/2015 3:55:26 PM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: RightGeek

Here is the principle: the closer you are to the child, the more you care about the children. So the ones who care most are parents, then the family tree, then the neighborhood, then the church, then the city, then the state, which means by the time you get to the Feds, they don’t care a molecule about the child.

There is no good reason for Fed involvement in education.


12 posted on 06/10/2015 5:04:54 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The states already fund the bulk of public education on their own.

While I doubt he’ll campaign on this, if Walker is elected the chances of eliminating the federal Dept. of Education are very good, in my opinion.


13 posted on 06/10/2015 5:28:58 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: RightGeek
“Salaries are a part of recruiting the best and the brightest to any profession, including teaching,” Rouzer said.

Apparently not in North Carolina since their salaries are below national average.

14 posted on 06/10/2015 5:43:37 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RightGeek
“The Democrats would never go along with eliminating the federal Department of Education Department of Political Indoctrination.
15 posted on 06/10/2015 6:44:21 PM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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