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Department Of Justice Uses Grand Jury Subpoena To Identify Anonymous Commenters ...
Popehat.com ^ | 6/8/2015 | Ken White

Posted on 06/08/2015 4:32:55 PM PDT by Skepolitic

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To: PAR35; Skepolitic
Based on the threats posted at your link, the subpoenas appear to be justified.

What you say makes sense.

However, if it were applied EQUALLY OR JUSTLY, I would have no problem.

The fact is that the 'law' is not being applied equally.

One can get on public TV and call for the murder of innocent American citizens, and that is declared LEGAL USE OF FREE SPEECH.

41 posted on 06/08/2015 6:20:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Crazieman
Hope JimRob tells them to pound sand and has the system rigged to zero-write the drives and then pass them through a shredder.

Doesn't need to be anywhere near that extreme. The only thing FR truly needs to "log" for each and every one of us to logon and comment are a user id and password.

As long as things like IP Addresses / Reverse DNS Lookups aren't logged, JimRob can turn over name and password till the cows come home and it won't affect anyone.

Having myself posted a rather long trail of bombastic "I hate this Goverment" and "waiting for the revolution to start" responses, I hope JimRob's not logging our IP addresses or doing reverse DNS lookups to see where we're coming from and logging that .....

Just sayin'....

42 posted on 06/08/2015 6:22:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: abb
Back in 2007 Bill O'Reilly cited FR as a hate group saying that members proclaimed that they hated blacks.

The dope should have personally checked it out..

O'Reilly's people searched the Internet for strings of characters like "hate blacks" or four letter words with no regard of context, for example a poster might mention Cushitic as an Afro-Asiatic language -- O'Reilly would go nuts proclaiming that four letter words on FR worse than left wing sites.

There is the actual case of O'Reilly's charge of "hate" on FR when his people found the string of characters, "I hate blacks" on FR.

Never mind that it was a substring of a column title ("Why I Hate Blacks") in a San Francisco Asian publication. The FR thread was discussing the column and its author. Fox News John Gibson interviewed the author, cannot it be said that Fox News is a "hate" organization too?

Just for everyone's information.

43 posted on 06/08/2015 6:23:27 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: wastoute

Absolutely!


44 posted on 06/08/2015 6:25:16 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: Moonman62
No. One of the comments listed in the subpeona was as follows:
Rhywunl5.3l.15 @ 11:35AMIIt I hope there is a special place in hell reserved for that horrible woman.
Nothing more or less from that commenter. I've seen much, much worse here at FR. If you don't believe me, read the subpeona at popehat's link.
45 posted on 06/08/2015 6:31:42 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: PAR35
Based on the threats posted at your link, the subpoenas appear to be justified.

For *all* the comments posted at that link? Some maybe, but not all.

Saying a judge should be harmed in a specific way in front of a courthouse -- yeah, I think that should be taken seriously. Especially given the country we live in today.

Saying one hopes there's a special place in hell for a judge (or any individual for that matter) is far from a threat.

By the way -- in order for a threat to be "real" ..... doesn't there have to be a demonstrated means/capability on the part of a poster to carry out that threat?

Not a lawyer here, just asking the question ....

46 posted on 06/08/2015 6:32:23 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Lemme see if I get your statement. You mean people ‘like me’ cowarding?

No, people like you proposing polluting mother earth with your dirty right wing smoke. The FCC probably can't come down on you so they'll send in the EPA.

It was supposed be be a joke about why the EPA needs a SWAT team too.

47 posted on 06/08/2015 6:37:52 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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To: wastoute
I bet in three days we can hook up laptops to CBs and tell the Feds to pound sound with impunity.

Forget CB's, they don't get out far enough.

Now an enterprising amateur radio operator who knows how to connect computer to transmitter and send in CW, Digital Modes, SSTV, etc.. gets that message out WORLD WIDE quite easily.

And BTW: Some do. 6.925 USB --- just sayin'.

48 posted on 06/08/2015 6:39:47 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: KarlInOhio

LOL! I gotcha. A bit slow this evening. ;)


49 posted on 06/08/2015 6:48:10 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: usconservative
-- By the way -- in order for a threat to be "real" ..... doesn't there have to be a demonstrated means/capability on the part of a poster to carry out that threat? --

No. The linked piece talks about the Hal Lindsey (Hal somebody, anyway) case.

All a subpoena is, is a fishing expedition. The authorities claim they want to see the person making the threat, and AFTER that, they will make a determination whether or not the poster might be taken seriously.

50 posted on 06/08/2015 6:52:49 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
All a subpoena is, is a fishing expedition. The authorities claim they want to see the person making the threat, and AFTER that, they will make a determination whether or not the poster might be taken seriously.

That makes sense, thanks.

51 posted on 06/08/2015 7:00:00 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: abb
The US Attorney and Assistant US Attorney are both from ... INDIA.

Are we outsourcing our justice now too?!

52 posted on 06/08/2015 7:04:37 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

The point of CBs would be they don’t. Imagine the NSA trying to figure that out.


53 posted on 06/08/2015 7:19:36 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Crazieman

Hope he takes your advice.


54 posted on 06/08/2015 7:29:29 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Skepolitic

Right after the Elonis decision was issued? The Justice Department clearly has no sense of irony.


55 posted on 06/08/2015 7:39:38 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: wastoute
The point of CBs would be they don’t. Imagine the NSA trying to figure that out.

They're also very easily tracked. Back in "the day" we used to have fox hunts every weekend to hone our signal tracking skills.

Now amateur radio and low-band transmissions that use sky wave --- not so easy to track. IN fact, very difficult. Drive the federale's absolutely nuts.

56 posted on 06/08/2015 8:37:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I am not a computer guy particularly but can you imagine 100 million, cheap CB radios all buzzing with digital, encrypted various versions of every bodies grandma’s banana bread smothering the signal and each passing data along in Internet fashion?


57 posted on 06/09/2015 1:45:06 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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