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Who's Responsible for the Moral Decline?
Townhall ^ | JUNE 3, 2015 | Susan Stamper Brown

Posted on 06/03/2015 8:35:46 AM PDT by rhema

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To: Sam Gamgee

The bible answer is the admonition (warning) and training (means learning a life of grace) of the Lord.

A lot of people let it become about pride, and in so doing, grace just gets dumped on the floor. Our pride looks at what we can do, not at how God does things.

But grace is the divine engine, so to speak, that runs purification from sin.


61 posted on 06/03/2015 10:46:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Was it neglect? Was it unloving parents who couldn’t back up strict discipline with love, respect and understanding?

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I’m a boomer and I also wonder the same thing. Having grown up with parents from “the greatest generation” in a time when America was at its best; how?

How did we devolve from the post-war greatness that was America to an Obama-hole country we now endure?


62 posted on 06/03/2015 10:48:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

There is always a chance in principle of any generation diving into sin. God has no grandchildren.

It’s ultimate a private soul choice thing. Now God has no trouble whatsoever in gathering souls with certain inclinations and characteristics into certain ages to achieve certain patterns of earthly history. He’s omnipotent and omniscient. But (pace certain Calvinists) there is one thing He will not do, and that is force anybody to stay in sin. That onus is on the souls.


63 posted on 06/03/2015 10:51:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

In the 1890s, Swami Vivekananda set off a trend of enchantment with Hinduism in America. A ‘free love’ movement was one of the results, and then it was championed by anarchists like Peter Kropotkin, who had a wave of popularity. Socialism, at least since Marx, has had the goal of destroying middle-class morality.

I have heard the phrase ‘commercially designated stereotypes combined with middle-class wealth and ubiquitous mass media’ used to describe the reason for the degradation of even lip service to traditional morality.


64 posted on 06/03/2015 11:05:27 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, it can’t. But people do. Millions of them. The shows that push these agendas are wildly popular because they feature young, hip, good looking people encouraging insecure young people to be “tolerant and compassionate towards these people who were born that way”.
Movies do the same.


65 posted on 06/03/2015 11:14:48 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: rhema
Back in the early 1960's the Supreme Court kicked God out of the Public Square and out of the public schools.

We left God, so He left us as a nation and has allowed us to stew in our own foul juices...

66 posted on 06/03/2015 11:15:07 AM PDT by Gritty (Republics fall when the wise are banished from public councils and the profligate rewarded-J. Story)
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To: TexasCajun; xzins; P-Marlowe; EternalVigilance; trisham; rhema; onyx; Jim Robinson
That would be those without any moral compass !!

...who all belong to the Democrat Party!

If you that more than a small minority of Republicans have any sort of moral compass you are very much mistaken.

Since taking full control of Congress last year the GOP has effectively surrendered the protection of marriage and done nothing about ending the unconstitutional Obamacare and its death panels.

The GOP's big "success" was in passing legislation that unconstitutionally LEGALIZED OVER 90% of abortions. Yes, you read that right, the GOP thinks it is a "pro-life victory" to pass laws that say abortion is just fine as long as it's done in a timely manner.

67 posted on 06/03/2015 11:28:16 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: pepsionice

The best gauge of moral decline in a society is not by comparing the behavior and values of the worst elements of society from one period to another, but by comparing those of the best elements. Our best elements now routinely engage in whoring and immodesty, vulgarity, and worship of criminality. We’re screwed.


68 posted on 06/03/2015 11:32:54 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Alex Murphy

I have brushed up on the pietist movement upon
reading your post, and I think you’re on to
something.

The pietists believed in the supremacy of pious
feelings over facts of a life lived for the glory
of God. I didn’t know it stretched back to the
17th century. It is the antecedent for our post-
modern “truths,” such as “as long as two people
love each other....” I thought this phenomenon
started in the Romantic Era of the early 19th century,
but that Era had its precedents also, apparently.


69 posted on 06/03/2015 11:53:33 AM PDT by WKTimpco
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To: rhema

libs


70 posted on 06/03/2015 12:06:54 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Sam Gamgee
It seems the Boomer generation was the first to really question traditional morality and experiment with alternate attitudes.

What about the "Roaring 20s"?

71 posted on 06/03/2015 12:31:34 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Sam Gamgee

” It seems the Boomer generation was the first to really question traditional morality and experiment with alternate attitudes. “

I suggest that you read up on the Roaring Twenties and Flappers, right after World War One.

Or the Transcendentalists, Brook Farm, the New Thought movement, the Oneida Community, all of it prior to the Civil War.

This stuff is nothing new and the Boomers were hardly the first.


72 posted on 06/03/2015 12:47:43 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“How did we devolve from the post-war greatness that was America to an Obama-hole country we now endure?”

Part of it’s due to technology and marketing that came of age in the 1950s and early ‘60s. Television, the portable transistor radio, cheap stereos, maybe even paperbacks. This all made the mass transmission of alternative and counter cultural ideas quick and easy.

But even so we still had a common culture. That began to change with the waves of immigration that poured in after the 1965 immigration act. The 90% ‘Anglo-Saxon’ America of 1965 has dwindled to maybe 70%. We are now multi-cultural and multi-racial, with a fragmented culture that is growing ever more divided.


73 posted on 06/03/2015 1:07:27 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

maybe he meant “ubiquitous”?


74 posted on 06/03/2015 1:25:11 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: rhema

Good article.


75 posted on 06/03/2015 1:26:07 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: rhema

Bookmark for later.


76 posted on 06/03/2015 1:30:39 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: rhema

bkmk


77 posted on 06/03/2015 1:51:44 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: rhema
(the move to the left was apparent when America abandoned Anita Bryant to the wolves of homosexual advocacy)

From... conservapedia.com

"Anita Bryant (b. 1940) was an extremely successful singer and commercial endorser who became an early opponent of homosexuality. As a result, the entertainment and corporate world ostracized her.

A devout Christian born and raised in Oklahoma, Bryant won the prestigious talent competition of Arthur Godfrey at age 16, was runner-up in the Miss America competition at age 19, and next recorded three smash popular hit songs, of which a couple were imitated later by famous groups such as the Beatles. In the late 1960s and 1970s Anita Bryant became one of the most successful endorsers of goods, most famously Florida orange juice. She was was an extremely popular celebrity in her time, and had such broad appeal that she performed the National Anthem at Super Bowl III in 1969 and "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" at the burial of former President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1973.

Living in South Florida, Bryant saw Florida's Dade County (now Miami-Dade County) pass an ordinance in 1977 granting anti-discrimination rights to homosexuals.[Citation Needed] Within four weeks, Bryant, along with supporters from the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Miami and the Florida Conservative Union, had collected 64,000 signatures, many more than the 10,000 needed to put the issue on the ballot. [1] The ordinance was successfully repealed in a referendum that passed in a landslide vote of 69% to 31%. She said her main concern was the recruitment of children into the homosexual lifestyle, and she founded a group called Save Our Children for that purpose. It was not until 1998 that Miami-Dade County reinstated the ordinance by a narrow 7-6 vote.

Bryant also successfully led a campaign for the Florida legislature to prohibit homosexuals from adopting children. Over two decades later, in 2004, that law was upheld by the Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit.[2]

Homosexual advocates vilified Bryant for her stance, and continue to insult her to this day. They organized a boycott of her corporate sponsors and they obtained denunciations of Bryant by other entertainers. Four self-proclaimed homosexuals slapped Bryant with a pie in her face during a speaking event in Des Moines, Iowa.[3] Bryant responded immediately by saying a prayer for her assailants. Police authorities refused to prosecute for the assault.

The efforts of the homosexual activists succeeded in destroying Bryant's career. The corporations refused to continue to hire her; the music industry excluded her. Subsequent attempts by Bryant to further her entertainment career in small towns were unsuccessful, and liberal newspapers hound her about that also.[4]

Homosexuals continue to attempt to discredit Anita Bryant as part of their current effort to repeal the Florida law against adoption by homosexual couples. The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that on March 25, 2007 a "meeting, organized by local, state and national gay advocacy groups, was held to discuss a proposal in Tallahassee to repeal Florida's 30-year-old ban on gay adoption. Organizers said the ban is a remnant of former beauty queen and orange juice spokeswoman Anita Bryant's anti-gay crusade of the 1970s."[5]

It should be noted that Anita Bryant was largely correct in that she believed homosexuals wanted to recruit children into their ways, for example noted gay rights activist Harry Hay protested the exclusion of groups like NAMBLA in the 1990s (that had previously been in the gay mainstream) and Hay refused to participate in the official 1994 parade in New York City commemorating the 25th anniversary of the Stonewall riots because of its 'exclusionary policies'. Instead he joined an alternate parade called "The Spirit of Stonewall""
78 posted on 06/03/2015 1:55:23 PM PDT by overdog2
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To: conejo99

It is the government pushing this transgender agenda.

Transgender Day of Remembrance at State Dep