Posted on 06/02/2015 2:05:27 PM PDT by BBell
I think that unless you can point to a flaw in the research, you're just personally expressing wishful thinking.
The research might be perfectly valid. But, as in many research studies, what it ultimately shows is statistical correlation. This does not, in any way, mean that these drugs CAUSE any sort of behavior. They are simply correlated with it. Showing a causal connection would require a very different sort of study, often difficult to impossible to carry out.
There was a warning in an article in the WSJ, at least two years ago that the Obama administration was making plans to deny second amendment rights to people who take anti-depressants or anti-anxiety medications and that the electronic medical records would make that easy to do.
it’s not that it would drive you to kill anyone... it’s just that it would reduce your inhibitions by increasing your apathy towards the death of a person
if you don’t care whether someone lives or dies... and a person gets in your face while you’re holding a steak knife... well...
From the article:
“In the new study, the researchers looked at data collected from about 960 men and women in Finland, ages 13 to 88, who were all convicted of homicide.
They then compared each person who committed homicide with 10 other people who had not committed homicide, but who were the same age and gender, and lived in the same town.
The findings showed that tranquilizers increased the risk of committing a homicide by 45 percent and antidepressant use increased the risk by 31 percent.
But the researchers were surprised to find that the use of anti-inflammatory pain relievers was tied to an increase of more than 200 percent in the risk of committing homicide. Opioid pain relievers elevated risk by 92 percent, Tiihonen said.
The researchers speculate that tranquilizers may weaken people’s impulse control. Other studies have suggested that using certain painkillers may dull processes responsible for processing emotions.
The study is published in the journal World Psychology.”
Maybe these people would have killed MORE people if they had not been on these meds.
Obama, by decree, is using the FBI to classify “mentally ill” people via visits to shrinks and/or drug use, in order to keep them from gun ownership.
This “study’ means anyone with a history pain killers or anxiety meds can be classified as homicidal and therefore mentally unfit to have second amendment rights.
Cute, huh? We will be seeing a lot more of this abuse.
I also read on Drudge that the FBI is conducting a new study on internet “terrorism.” It has lumped “right wing internet groups” with Islamic terrorists on the internet to target dangerous individuals who “incite violence.”
The hatred and persecution of their political enemies runs deep with this mob in power. They are communists or fascists in transition - not sure which - but they are anti-American big time. They should be ashamed of themselves but Leftists know no shame. See the Soviet Union, Cuba, Viet Nam, North Korea and China for the content of character among the government people involved here.
They know darn well leftists are violent - actually orchestrating riots (paying rioters) and inspiring the murder of cops and the murder of white people. It’s all just left wing radical political abuse and pure hate. Hate rots one’s guts so they will pay the natural and spiritual consequences of what they host inside of themselves.
Just for a review: Homeland inSecurity and the DOD has named Vets, Tea Party organizations, constitution supporters, Ron Paul voters/third party voters/libertarians, the State of Texas, etc. terrorists. Obviously they have added Harley rider clubs to the mix.
Exactly.
Remember all the talk with the Mexican Pres about stopping US arms going to Mexico? There were several announcements in the news by Obama, then months later Fast and Furious details started leaking out. It was all a setup, and they got caught diddling in arms trafficking.
It is all about timing, and disarming America.
Or... People that need pain killers and anti-anxiety meds are more likely to be violent.
Cause / Effect..
Anyway, the subject CBS page links to an article at livescience.com that includes this quote (about three-quarters down): "It's important to point out that the study found an association, not a cause-and-effect relationship, so it does not prove that the use of specific drugs could lead someone to kill."
I wasn't able to find the original study, published yesterday, on my first search.
So now someone who has been a decent, law abiding, gun owning citizen, who ends up with cancer, and starts taking pain relievers and anti anxiety Rx is going to get put on the anti-gunners hit list. Worse, there are FReepers falling for this bs.
I wonder what the numbers of people taking anti-anxiety meds, sleeping pills and seeing shrinks is today compared to before Obama’s presidency?
Another thread where the prescription addicts get together to pretend they are superior to run of the mill junkies.
“...that it would reduce your inhibitions by increasing your apathy towards the death of a person...”
Wouldn’t the drug also increase your apathy towards the way the person makes you feel? In other words, you wouldn’t care that you disliked/hated the person?
That’s rather presumptuous of you. Is that why you’re here?
And in many cases they do CAUSE negative behavior, in this case, homicide. You obviously are biased in the matter, and WANT the results to be correlation and not causation. That kind of wanting has nothing to do with science. And it leads to a presumption that causation is harder to established than correlation - mainly through statistical arguments to constantly move the goal posts between the two definitions. In other words, money, influence and bias change the rules by which the results are evaluated. Its the oldest science crime in the book.
“Prove” is a statistical term. There’s a trillion dollars in pharmaceuticals with interest in how this study is portrayed. The miracle is that it came out at all. By the end of the week, it will be downgraded to rumor and the researchers outed as drunks.
Or not.
From the article in LiveScience:
“It’s important to point out that the study found an association, not a cause-and-effect relationship, so it does not prove that the use of specific drugs could lead someone to kill.”
http://www.livescience.com/51030-benzodiazepines-pain-relievers-homicide-risk.html
The number of folks on pain and or psyche meds in this country is huge. Out of that population, a “study” could prove whatever they wanted to.
See my 37.
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