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Baltimore's Murder Rate Climbs To 43
WBAL ^ | 5/31/2015

Posted on 05/31/2015 10:23:00 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: Beowulf9
"And the ace of spades is the death card in some circles. Was it pointing up or down?"

Not sure, but I believe at the time the cards were read either way according to suits. Could be wrong since I'm not a gambler. However, I do remember back then the deck didn't have numbers or is that face cards?

61 posted on 06/01/2015 9:59:50 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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Love this list.


62 posted on 06/01/2015 10:30:14 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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You know, I have been trying to find this out but I seem to find they had both. However, I do seem to have seen the decks back then with only numbers and spades, clubs...etc.

They must know this.


63 posted on 06/01/2015 10:42:53 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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"Love this list."

Thanks. I've been Googling more top ten gunslingers and find that many include Wyatt Earp and/or Johnny Ringo. That's a falsehood. Wyatt was not a fast draw gunslinger. He usually made his point my hitting people upside the head with his pistol. That's why he got fired from Dodge City...he was too aggressive. What has always impressed me about him is that he was a slight built man, but had the cojones of an elephant. He was a decent shooter, but not what history makes him to be. He had been in only one shoot before the OK Corral.

From my research, Hickok, Hardin, and Stoudenmire (never heard of) were the actual top 3 fast draw accurate shooters of the time. Of course, there were others, but these 3 names always top the lists.

If you want to go with kills rather than fast-draw shoot-outs, Thomas Horn of the Pinkerton Agency is one of worse if not the most cold-blooded killers of the old west. While many on the list of gun-slingers I gave you above have kills ranging from 2-15, Horn is attributed to some 50 kills. After 17 kills while at Pinkerton, they fired him. He went on to be a ruthless murderer until hanged.

That's the kinda of scum Wyatt Earp would have confronted like he did with the Clantons and McLaurys. Bet he would have won with his cool and methodical determination. Yeah, he's a hero in my book, and I include his brothers. They were just decent men looking for new opportunities along with their wives. Hell, Wyatt didn't even want to get involved in Tombstone lawlessness until he had to back Virgil. "You back your Brother's play", as in the movie. He said that also in his memoirs.

Do you know what early Hollywood cowboy actor wept at his funeral in 1929? Hint: think earliest cowboy actor I believe to be in non-talking movies. Could be wrong on the silent thing.

64 posted on 06/01/2015 11:44:53 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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Tom Mix:) I read he became friends with him. They made a movie about him just a few years ago.


65 posted on 06/02/2015 7:50:18 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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"Tom Mix:) I read he became friends with him. They made a movie about him just a few years ago.".

Yup. Tom Mix cried at Wyatt's funeral. He knew what a stand up guy Wyatt Earp was and attempted to copy Wyatt's persona in his early silent movies. Didn't know there was a movie about Tom Mix.

66 posted on 06/04/2015 9:22:37 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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Let me know when or if you read the book recommendations above. Both are a little convoluted, but fascinating. There was so much more to the Tombstone saga than most know. Until the movie, "Tombstone" came along, most didn't even know about the "Vendetta Ride", nor the killing of Stillwell at the train station.

Love the line in the movie, when Wyatt tells Ike after shooting Stillwell, "Tell all the other curs, that I'm coming. And HELLS coming with me. HELLS COMING WITH ME!". Although that line is fiction, Wyatt Earp and his posse DID reign hell on the Cowboys and associates for months later.

Also, Wikipedia entries seem to be the end all of the saga. They have a lot wrong according to court documents, affadavits, and eye-witnesses. Don't bother.

67 posted on 06/04/2015 10:23:26 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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oh you might enjoy it then:) It stars Bruce Willis (Tom Mix) James Garner (Wyatt Earp) and is directed by Blake Edwards. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096193/
68 posted on 06/04/2015 12:00:30 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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