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“I Had Groups of ISIS Fighters in My Sights, but Couldn’t Get Clearance to Engage.”
Frontpage Mag ^ | 05/27/2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 05/28/2015 11:07:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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This isn’t really news. It’s just a reminder that the air strikes on ISIS are being run in the same disastrous fashion as those in Afghanistan. And it didn’t begin with Obama. Lest we forget, on the day before 9/11, Bill Clinton was boasting that he had let Osama bin Laden go to avoid collateral damage.

Obama Inc. talks about how the Iraqis don’t want to fight. It neglects to mention that it isn’t letting the military fight [2].

U.S. military pilots carrying out the air war against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria are voicing growing discontent over what they say are heavy-handed rules of engagement hindering them from striking targets.

They blame a bureaucracy that does not allow for quick decision-making. One Navy F-18 pilot who has flown missions against ISIS voiced his frustration to Fox News, saying: “There were times I had groups of ISIS fighters in my sights, but couldn’t get clearance to engage.”

He added, “They probably killed innocent people and spread evil because of my inability to kill them. It was frustrating.”

Sources close to the air war against ISIS told Fox News that strike missions take, on average, just under an hour, from a pilot requesting permission to strike an ISIS target to a weapon leaving the wing.

ISIS is well aware of the framework and functions within it. Just like the Taliban quickly learned that if they were in residential areas or around mosques, that if they didn’t show weapons, they were free and clear.

“You’re talking about hours in some cases, which by that time the particular tactical target left the area and or the aircraft has run out of fuel. These are excessive procedures that are handing our adversary an advantage,” said retired Lt. Gen. David Deptula, a former director of the Combined Air Operations Center in Afghanistan in 2001.

Deptula also contrasted the current air campaign against ISIS with past air campaigns.

The U.S.-led airstrikes over Iraq during the first Gulf War averaged 1,125 strike sorties per day, according to Deptula. He said the Kosovo campaign averaged 135 strikes per day. In 2003, the famous “shock and awe” campaign over Iraq saw 800 strikes per day.

According to the U.S.-led coalition to defeat ISIS, U.S. military aircraft carry out 80 percent of the strikes against ISIS and average 14 per day.

And for Obama that’s still too many.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; isis; obamaisis

1 posted on 05/28/2015 11:07:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a joke. Just another Obama lie so he can claim he’s doing something knowing the press will cover his lies.


2 posted on 05/28/2015 11:09:48 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SeekAndFind

COMBAT PILOTS SHOULD BE TOLD “WEAPONS FREE!” AT TIME OF TAKE OFF.


3 posted on 05/28/2015 11:11:33 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

This isn’t really news. It’s just a reminder that the air strikes on ISIS are being run in the same disastrous fashion as those in Vietnam.


4 posted on 05/28/2015 11:12:35 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s trying to hurt ISIS, but not enough to stop the eventual overthrow of Assad.

Half-a$$ed.


5 posted on 05/28/2015 11:12:58 AM PDT by struggle
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To: SeekAndFind
The United States is not at war with ISIS. The use of military force against them has not been authorized by Congress. It is unlikely, were force to be authorized, that the present administration could do so effectively.

And, most importantly, the American people, acting through their representatives, would never authorize a return in force to the area formerly called "Iraq".

Too bad about the inhabitants of North Arabia. Sucks to be them.

6 posted on 05/28/2015 11:14:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: SandRat
COMBAT PILOTS SHOULD BE TOLD “WEAPONS FREE!” AT TIME OF TAKE OFF

American naval aviators and airmen have no authority to engage ISIS forces.

7 posted on 05/28/2015 11:16:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: omega4412
It’s just a reminder that the air strikes on ISIS are being run in the same disastrous fashion as those in Vietnam.

Yup! Rolling Thunder Part II

8 posted on 05/28/2015 11:23:57 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ROE have been AFU since Nam.

They are much worse now.


9 posted on 05/28/2015 11:26:44 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no authority to commit war.


10 posted on 05/28/2015 11:28:54 AM PDT by exnavy (BLOAT: buy lots of ammo train.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Without weapons, the Air Force is just an expensive flying club. Ditto for the Navy/Marines.


11 posted on 05/28/2015 11:34:05 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind

Bkmrk.


12 posted on 05/28/2015 11:51:45 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if some of these soldiers ask for permission too often.


13 posted on 05/28/2015 12:16:30 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s what you get by putting a Muslim in the WH.


14 posted on 05/28/2015 12:31:04 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Jim Noble
American naval aviators and airmen have no authority to engage ISIS forces.

During my combat tour in Bosnia, we had similar limitations. Every day we say pillars of smoke rising over villages across that war-torn nation and the attack aircraft were denied authorization to engage.

15 posted on 05/28/2015 12:31:44 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: SeekAndFind

Clearance to engage? Any one who’s ever served in the military knows it’s much easier to get forgiveness than permission!


16 posted on 05/28/2015 1:47:39 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If obama’s aim was to help establish the caliphate and offset their power by allowing a nuclear iran, while he oversaw the destruction of the USA’s military and economic dominance in the rest of the world...exactly what would he do differently than what he’s doing now?


17 posted on 05/28/2015 1:48:43 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: omega4412
This isn’t really news. It’s just a reminder that the air strikes on ISIS are being run in the same disastrous fashion as those in Vietnam.

This may be worse than Viet Nam. In VN, IIRC, they didn't have to ask permission in "real time".

18 posted on 05/28/2015 1:50:16 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Lest we forget, on the day before 9/11, Bill Clinton was boasting that he had let Osama bin Laden go to avoid collateral damage.

19 posted on 05/29/2015 6:18:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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