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Tesla Motors Inc: Gigafactory To Be A Major Turning Point In Auto Market
valuewalk ^ | May 26, 2015 08:08:59 PM | Michelle Jones

Posted on 05/26/2015 9:35:12 PM PDT by ckilmer

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To: Moonman62
"Is that total energy"

Yes, of course. The efficiency of the use can vary considerably.

41 posted on 05/27/2015 1:15:11 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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that would work if it materially increased the mpg of the car. does it?

It works remarkably efficient for locomotives. I do not know for sure, but its efficiency gains may come as weight increases. Think trucks hauling loads, vehicles pulling trailers and MINIVANS. There is your hint.

42 posted on 05/27/2015 3:42:39 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (President Walker - Attorney General Cruz (enforcing immigration laws for real))
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To: norwaypinesavage

Yes, of course. The efficiency of the use can vary considerably.

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Sow how does the efficiency of an internal combustion engine running on gas compare to an electric motor running off a battery?


43 posted on 05/27/2015 5:08:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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"So how does the efficiency of an internal combustion engine running on gas compare to an electric motor running off a battery?

In the US, the electric motor running off a battery mostly gets the electricity from a combustion engine turning a generator. Thus, it is most useful to follow the efficiency of the entire process of generating the electricity, not just the final use of electricity from a battery.

Even if you look at only the battery power from your electric outlet in your home, there are inefficiencies in charging the battery, not using the battery for some time, and discharging the battery. The motor itself likely runs at about 95 percent efficiency.

An IC engine powered vehicle is much less efficient than that. A rule of thumb is that a third of the power is lost in heat, and another third is lost in mechanical efficiency, leaving just a third to propel the vehicle. However, the electric vehicle also has losses in the powertrain which can approach the one third in the IC vehicle. It also must heat and air condition the vehicle, while heating is free in the IC vehicle. The battery must also provide lighting, battery and motor cooling and other electrical loads in the vehicle which decreases the efficiency more.

44 posted on 05/27/2015 5:27:05 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It works remarkably efficient for locomotives. I do not know for sure, but its efficiency gains may come as weight increases. Think trucks hauling loads, vehicles pulling trailers and MINIVANS. There is your hint.
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Too bad this could not be installed in minivans. My brother drives Amish around in 16 people step vans. Lower fuel costs are always helpful. But this would be too cost prohibitive and hard to maintain for an installation.


45 posted on 05/28/2015 5:56:31 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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No, it will debut in minivans.


46 posted on 05/28/2015 8:00:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (President Walker - Attorney General Cruz (enforcing immigration laws for real))
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